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#1 Posted : 7/13/2013 8:32:13 PM

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Ive recently acquired some hawiian acacia confusa root bark & some yellow caapi & plan to make a brew for a first experience.
Ive read 100gs caapi is a good dose for a first brew but i only have about half that.
Ive done caapi with mushrooms one other time but fell asleep before i Felt any effects.
Would using a lower dose of caapi be sufficient for enzyme enhibition if acacia & mushrooms were combined or is more caapi needed to ensure a proper experience with the brew?
(lower dose of caapi meaning the ~50gs i already have)
Id rather wait & get more caapi than waste my bark on a dud trip.
 

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#2 Posted : 7/13/2013 10:29:26 PM

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50g caapi is enough for some people to orally activate DMT.

plus confusa is said to be orally active on its own with high enough doses, so i would imagine it requires less RIMA.

and cubes are obviously orally active on their own.

i would say 50g should be sufficient. especially if you are not a heavy guy.
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#3 Posted : 7/14/2013 11:17:16 PM

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have you done confusa orally without mushrooms before? I'd suggest if not, leaving out the mushrooms till you have gained more experience with just the dmt+MAOI combo.. it should be quite intense if you get the doseage right
 
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#4 Posted : 7/19/2013 8:42:40 AM

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Ive never had confusa on its own or any other source of dmt at all for that matter. Im also not the biggest person in the world but when it comes to psychedellics i tend to be extremely hard headed so im worried about the caapi dosage.
My body seems to Metabolize most drugs better (or maybe its just the opposite) than the company i keep.
Despite the fact that my mass is alot less than everyone i trip with, i usually end up dosing much higher to achieve the same level of intensity as the people im with, this has been the case for me with nearly every drug ive tried aside from ketamine & 25-I-nbome
 
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#5 Posted : 7/19/2013 5:42:14 PM

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Why dont you brew the caapi and acacia and drink, wait a few hours and if the effect is to weak then eat some of the mushrooms..

50g of caapi should be enough but sometimes it isnt, however 50grams of even weak vine will potentiate mushrooms to some degree.

 
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#6 Posted : 7/20/2013 11:24:43 PM

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Firstly, I'd suggest to get more Caapi. There is a lot more to the vine than simply the activation of DMT. The vine. helps ground the experience in the body and more of it creates a better phenomenological synthesis imho. Terence McKenna's famous brews from Hawaii were vine heavy. Plus you'll want vine for next time so you might as well be patient and stock-up.

i once prepared and drunk caapi, Acacia acuminata, and 2.5g dried psilocybe subgeranosa. It was one of the most significant experience of my early ayahuasca years. Truly special. The vine potentiates the mushrooms also, about x2 from memory.

We brewed the caapi and acacia, drunk it and then ate the mushrooms shortly after. It worked well.





 
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#7 Posted : 7/23/2013 4:38:59 AM

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My problem solved itself. I got an unexpected oz of syrian rue seeds freeBig grin
I brewed 2 batches of formahuasca over the weekend with 15gs of acacia & 4gs of rue each. The first one i only drank half of & it wasnt too strong & was a bit harsh, but still very enjoyable. I gave a friend the other half of the first brew & he liked it too.
The second brew i tried to finish & could not keep the acacia portion down long enough for a full blown trip, the taste made me gag bad. I did however, have entity contact briefly, not visually, but there was a playful energy there & it was making contact with me somehow, i cant quite explain it but it was there. I could sense it in the room & it spoke to me through altered sounds & mental frequencies or something. I wished it could have lasted long enough for me to figure out how to communicate with it or to at least figure out what it was.
 
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#8 Posted : 7/23/2013 5:45:50 AM

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I still have ~20grams of bark left, i plan on brewing up another batch as soon as i have the time (this time in a crockpot, using a gas stove for 6hours to brew requires nearly constant attention). Ill also be consuming the brew much more slowly. I want to hold a heavy dose down long enough to get a full experience. Ill write up an experience report too since theres not much on the net about this particular plant source.
 
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#9 Posted : 9/16/2013 6:48:05 PM

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Has there been another try at this yet?
 
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#10 Posted : 10/25/2013 5:57:04 AM

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Tryptamine420 wrote:
My problem solved itself. I got an unexpected oz of syrian rue seeds freeBig grin

i know it's been a while since this thread was posted, but seeing as it was bumped i thought i would suggest checking if there are any middle eastern stores in your area. there's some arab convenience-type stores here where syrian rue can be found for practically free of charge, a couple of bucks a package.
 
 
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