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giovani78
#1 Posted : 7/16/2013 1:27:40 AM
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Hi all dear members, I'm 33 years old originally from middle east, but my family moved to europe when I was about 4 years old. I have had a big experience with dmt and different kind of psychedelics for a longer period of time. I have a lot to thank lsd, mushrooms and dmt for as it changed my life around big time and at the same time have given me a great time Cool Big grin I have been extraktion dmt for almost 2 months now, and with each extraktion have found the perfect extraktion for me. The response from people have been testing it have been truly overwhelming. Some of this extraction will sound alot like some new age mumbo jumbo Laughing But I truly feel from the reaction that I got that it does make a difference so I will share that to. I decided to start make the magic crystals without changa because I wanted people to really get a feel of what dmt is and experience what I have experienced. But I do want to try to make changa, especially the one called The Dreamer from Dream Weaver's tek Smile For me I think time has been the key, I really, reaLLY, REALLY! let everything have its time and never stress anything. For me each extractions takes somewhere between 4-5 days before I have the crystals. Some times longer, this is because I truly believe that stressing anything not just dmt crystals, will have its consequences.

The tek that I started with was Lazyman's tek but after my first extraktion and 2 pulls I only got 0.3/0.4 grams out of 100 grams of mimosa. and that was very disappointing for me as I was expecting somewhere around 1%. So I started to read around the forums I found out that I was rushing things.

Some things that I have learned is, I never warm anything. That has given me very bad results and made the bark mix with the naphtha creating a very bad mix that needs cleaning afterwards. Besides I normally get around 1.7-2.0% everytime after my first pull and around 2.3/4% after second pull so I don't think that warming can help me get anymore. Leaving the bark solution in more then 1 week is by some strange reason also releasing bark solution when mixed with naptha afterwards, but this is only on second pulls, never happens on first pulls. Leaving the solution for 4-5 days seems to give me the best results although I make my first pull somewhere around 36 hours. There is a very good reason why I try to get most of it on the first pull!! That is because from my very short experience I have noticed that the crystals are almost always purer on the first pull. Better color, less waxy and so on.

Now this is what I do, all of it are from teks here on the forum. Like I said this is a STB tek. I have got the best results with bark around 70-90 grams.

1. Make the momisa powder in a grinder or something like that. I try to plan ahead and place the amount om mimosa that I want in the freezer the day before so that it gets easier. In never bother to make it totally pulverized because my grinder is a pain in the ass! Razz although that helps. But almost.

2. I mix the water and lye, for me the best results and ratio is from Noman's tek "Mix 15mL water and 1g lye per gram of bark in the mixing jar." But I usually put around 5-10 grams more of lye just to be sure Thumbs up Then i stir until the mix is transparent. And let it sit there for 35-40 minutes. Its very important to use good lye. In my region there are 2 types, ball like crystals and small crystals. I use the small ones as the ball like don't seem to mix well with the water. I've got some results with the ball like, but not that good as far as yield goes. I have tried both tap water and deionized water, the results have been them same, and the quality has been the same. I use a gas mask when working with lye, maybe its a little bit overkill but I have noticed that even thou I'm very careful the lye burns the insides of my nose Mad

3. While the water and lye is being mixed I prepare the mimosa in a bowl and I prepare the same amount that I had on the lye with salt!! This is a very important step for me with the salt my yields has risen from 1% to 2,5%, one time I got 3%. But its very important that per gram the alt is as much as the lye. I have tried different salt and they do give different results, the crystals look different when dried. The most important thing when choosing salt is that it does not contain anything else the NaCI, at least up to 98%. I have found a place that I can buy 1kg of really good salt for 1-2$ so for me thats very cheap as I never need more than 70-90 grams depending of how much lye om using. I have 2 times tried this with 2 jars at the same time and everything the same just one without salt and the salt definitely makes the difference.

4. I now pour in the powdered mimosa but before steering it I lay on top of that the salt and then start steering everything very powerfully. When everything is mixed (after 3-5min) of steering and close the jare and start shaking it vigorously. I do this from time to time until I feel no more heat from the jar. After this I let it sit in ROOM TEMPERATURE for 36-48 hours. Like I said I really thing stressing the molecule has its effects on the final product as far as potency goes.

5. In the naphtha part I really don't how much I use. I have 2 different jars that I use, one is 1.8L and the other 2L.. I just try to fill them up as far as I can. This part I have used Noman's tek "Now add 1mL naptha per gram of bark in the mixing jar and turn the jar end over end." But I added some steps from a tip that I got from a friend. I do in 4 hour parts, I turn the jar end over end for somewhere between 5-8 minutes but after this a put the jar upside down and let the naphtha work for around 4 hours. And then I go back and do the same but let it sit straight this time, I do this 2 more times so that it is sitting strait strait the last time for 4 hours or more. I really can't stress enough how important it is to really let the naphtha sit for a couple of hours for the best results. I use pure untouched heptane for this part. There are some heptane out there that are not pure or have been worked on so that they don't have any smell and so on.

6. I extract the heptan and put it in a separate jar. Then a first let it sit in fridge for 12 hours and then in the freezer for 24+ hours. The time that I got the best crystals was when I let it be in the fridge for 24 hours and then in the freezer for 24. After this a first pour the heptane in a jar for reuse and then let the crystals air dry. For this I first put the jars vertically but still letting them breathe and letting the last drops of heptan to pour out. This gives really good results in a couple of hours, then I collect the crystals and let them dry in a plate. I don't do a wash on them unless they are more to the brownish/yellow ish color, but this has happened only ones. I let it dry as long as it need, don't really know how long time as it very much depends on how warm it is on the outside.

Side notes: I as much as I have time try to sit and talk to the jar or sending reiki to it, or just putting on some good vibes, all the way until its in the fridge. Like I said I truly believe that this is the difference why people are loving it so much as I can't see any other difference. When drying them on a plate I let them sit under a dream catcher that I got from my sister for my last birthday Cool

I hope this works as a introduction as I suck on introductions, don't know if I missed anything. Thank for a great site, I have learned very much from here, not just about dmt extraction but chemistry as a whole. Thank you, much love <3 I in NOO way take any cred for this tek as all of it is taken from forum members and the teks that are already up.

Like I mentioned I'm very much interested in making The Dreamer Changa from Dream Weaver's tek but I cant write on that post or message him for advice so if anybody can help me with that I would appreciate it very much. Mostly I'm unsure if it is best to mix the changa directly before putting in the fridge or if its better to first get the crystals to know how much it is and then putting it back in naphtha, heat a little bit and then mix changa. This for best ratio. Does anybody have some good info on how much of each ingredients is needed for the The Dreamer to work the best?

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anrchy
#2 Posted : 7/16/2013 2:22:32 AM

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Dear member, please remember: No discussion is allowed about selling drugs, buying drugs, procuring drugs, prices of drugs, trading drugs and trafficking of drugs. This includes all isolated psychedelic compounds and RCs (Research Chemicals), whether they are legal or not.

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giovani78
#3 Posted : 7/16/2013 2:38:36 AM
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anrchy wrote:
Dear member, please remember: No discussion is allowed about selling drugs, buying drugs, procuring drugs, prices of drugs, trading drugs and trafficking of drugs. This includes all isolated psychedelic compounds and RCs (Research Chemicals), whether they are legal or not.

Please take the time to read the rules.


I'm sorry if I broke some rules Sad And you are absolutely right I should have taken the time to read the rules thoroughly instead of fast pace. But I haven't talked about selling drugs? I talked about some other persons in a very abstract way. The same goes with buying drugs, don't know what procuring means? and about prices of drugs or trading drugs, I just mentioned that its was expensive? maybe about trafficking drugs by offer people it? I was just explaining what put me on this path. Its really not starting a discussion? If you or a mod wants to point out where I did wrong I will fix it? But I think its a tad too harsh as my intention was not what the rules are trying to explain but just a background story, and like I said even there I don't think I broke any rules?

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#4 Posted : 7/16/2013 3:06:21 AM

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No "mentioning" about the sale of drugs by anyone, to anyone, or from anyone.

Cheer up. I'm not trying to be harsh and besides what I am pointing out the rest of your post is Great! So Welcome to the nexus and if you could, edit out that part please. Enjoy your stay, kick back, it looks like you have a lot to offer the nexus. It's great to see another person with extraction knowledge.

I apologize if I seemed harsh or upset. I was posting from my phone. Big grin
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#5 Posted : 7/16/2013 3:28:44 AM

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Welcome giovani78! Smile

Thanks for re-wording your post; we do try and keep things above board here, as Im sure you understand.

Its good to see a member who has surveyed several teks and taken what works for them from each. Thumbs up

Once more, welcome aboard.
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#6 Posted : 7/16/2013 3:38:02 AM
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Now I have changed the yellow part, Big thanks to both of you for the welcome <3 AND the pointing out Smile you were correct on your judgment there Thumbs up So you weren't harsh, I was just a little confused Razz
 
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#7 Posted : 7/16/2013 3:50:38 AM

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Awesome! Thanks for understanding. It seems like you def know your way around an extraction. Good to see another great mind joining the community!
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giovani78
#8 Posted : 7/16/2013 4:59:02 AM
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anrchy wrote:
Awesome! Thanks for understanding. It seems like you def know your way around an extraction. Good to see another great mind joining the community!


Thank you for the kind words m8, it does make my heart warm Smile Thank you!

Something else that I got to think of, keep your jars protected from heat if you want nice color and consistency on the final product. I don't wash the final product so this is of essence for me. Its seems obvious but I have made the mistake of putting them in a closet when Im away, but that has turned out to be a bad idea as closets can get hot enough for the bark solution to start giving away. By experience and reading the forums most of the time when people get brownish color on the final product its because of this. And this can be seen already on the nhapta stage. This can happen on the first pull, but for me its most of the time after the first pull, so I try to decide how long I want the lye to work the mimosa before the first pull, this way better crystals are pulled the first time. I usually use the second pull as experiment as with this tek most of it is extracted on the first pull. I use a syringe to pull the naphtha, and what I have noticed is that when the mimosa has begun to change the color of the naphtha from yellowish transparent to brownish then its much harder to get clean naphtha into the syringe when its almost at the bottom. When the mimosa is in room temp and in first pull I can easily by just being careful gett 90-95% clean naphtha, but when it has been in a room with a lit bit more then normal room temp for a while I can only get about 75-80 of the naphtha before it gets hard. The best place for me to have the jars on summer days is in my bedroom where I can have the curtains closed all day, windows open and the jars on the floor as the floor are cooler.

Sorry if its a lot to read but with my english I have a hard time putting it short Razz
 
giovani78
#9 Posted : 7/26/2013 5:37:53 AM
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I'm trying out as we speak STC - Dream Weaver's tek but with added salt and bi-carbonate. as it got me curious, and I have to say Its not finished yet, but I was positively surprised so far. The reason for this is that I have never done a tek where the lye got this hot so fast! I mean it does get hot when reactions starts, but this time It was almost burning. What I did was,

1. grind the mimosa to smaller pieces as much as I could. For this try I put in 250grams of mimosa.
2. I started with putting in the mimosa in the jar, first this time just like STC.
3. I added around 1.5L of water to the jar and shacked like crazy. I never use this little water per gram of mimosa but wanted to se if it works.
3. I added salt, 280g, I used the more expensive Himalaya salt this time because I've heard that it is to most alkaline that can be found. I mixed the salt for a god 15 minutes with a larger spoon.
4. Now I added the lye, 280grams and even before I had put in 1/3 of it and not touched the jar I could feel the jar getting extremely hot. When I was going to shake it I did it with the help of towels, I have never needed to use towels before to hold the jars. I had to open from time to time the release the pressure.
5. I added at the same time as the lye 50grams of bicarbonate. And then started to shacking everything like crazy. But It was already as hot as it could get. If I was to guess I would say that the mixture was up to 50-55 degrees Celsius, maybe more. While normal lye, water reaction for me feels like 30-35 degrees Celsius.

I'm going to leave it like this until Sunday when I'm back to add the naphtha. For this much bark I would have loved to have a bigger jar then the 2 liters that I have, but it still looks good so I think its going to do a good job. But I have to say because of the extreme heat the bark look like it has gone thru a volcano Razz A little bit overexadurated but it really done something in a very short amount off time that I have not seen before. It was like this for a good 1.30 hours to 2 hours. And it got very hot every time I shacked it. While on the other teks I'm more used to that it gets warm but fades away pretty quickly. And like I said It never burns, until now... So until Sunday and I come back with an update on Monday Smile Much Love and thank you for a great community <3
 
 
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