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giovani78
#1 Posted : 7/16/2013 2:59:01 AM
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Hi Smile I'm a bit confused about changa, would somebody explain to the best way to go about to get the best mix? Some questions my sound stupid but I just don't like doing stuff whitout at least have tried to ask Laughing I've read on Dream Weaver's tek that "16A. You have two options now, if you know you have done all the steps correctly and want to make changa straight away, mix your herbs into the jar contained the naptha which is saturated with DMT and freeze for 24+ hours in a freezer that freezes water rock solid."

But then I read on this changa guide https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=3539 that "Weigh the amount of freebase DMT needed to enhance your leaf
to the desired ratio. Thoroughly dissolve the freebase DMT (use about 40mL of solvent per gram
of DMT) in one of the following: 100% Ethyl Alcohol, Acetone or Isopropyl Alcohol.
"

My questions is does freebase dmt dissolve by it self in Alcohol or does it need to be heated or anything else? I have never resolved the freebase in anything but warm naphtha before. And which of these 2 methods is the best way to go about? Do I lose any yield in the second method?

My last question is when doing a changa with 2-3 leaves how would you know how much has been soaked in the leaves? What I mean how would I go about when Im going to smoke it later if I don't know wich leaves has soaked in the most alkaloids, would that mean that the same amount will sometimes be less strong and at times very strong when smoked?

Thank for the help Embarrased <3
 

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Dr_Sister
#2 Posted : 7/16/2013 3:52:35 AM

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Freebase DMT will dissolve in methyl, ethyl or isopropyl alcohol or acetone without the use of heat.

Freebase DMT is considerably less soluble in naphtha, so you would need a larger volume of solvent to dissolve the same amount of dmt (and IMHO naptha smells much worse than any of the alcohols). There is also the issue of some naptha sources containing a contaminant which remains as a residue after evaporation.

It Sisters books, it makes better sense to freeze precipitate your dmt from the naptha first, before preparing your change, so you can accurately measure how much is being used. Otherwise you will no clue how potent it will be, nor will you be able to reproduce a very good batch.

Sister supposes you could make a changa by adding dmt to 2-3 leaves, but it would be very weak in MAOIs. Ideally you want to concentrate your cappi extract to something in the order of 10X. Then mix your 10x cappi extract with your dmt 50/50 weight/weight.
 
giovani78
#3 Posted : 7/16/2013 4:12:44 AM
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Thanks for the clear up Smile How do I concentrate the capi? I was curious in making this mix, Dream Scape: 60% Calea - 40% Brugmansia, but maybe making it 50% capi, 30% Calea, 20% brugmansia. How much dmt would you put in this mix, 50 or 100%? How would you go about the make this mix? I'm thinking firstly cutting them down to smaller pieces and them mixing them all together, and then mixing it with dmt and alcohol. I just mix the dmt with as less of alcohol that I can get away with but enough to cover the leaves, and then steering everything together and leaving it to evap?

So sorry if i'm bombarding you with question Embarrased Thanks for the help =)
 
 
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