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Very interesting n2o experience. Options
 
nerevar
#1 Posted : 7/14/2013 8:47:17 PM

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[This would be in the "other psychoactives" forum if I had the privelages to post there.]

Cooked up some san pedro but have only mild effects. No visuals, just a kind of uplifting stoned feeling. So I decided to do some n2o. A full breath held in did it for me. The world started resonating with this frequency that I could hear and feel. Then as it got more intense, it had a distinct feeling of familiarity, like it had always been there. Another aspect to reality. The best analogy I can think of would be that I felt the 4th dimension of my body/mind. It was like the feeling had been there my whole life but I just never realized it. The n2o brought it right to the surface, like a dormant 6th sense uncovered.
Can anyone relate?
 

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#2 Posted : 7/14/2013 8:56:57 PM

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I have had the same type of experience with n2o and psychedelics. Usually though it increases the visuals to the point where it's almost like a breakthrough, but with that nitrous feel. Fast weird colorful spinning visuals and sometimes i will hear music playing that isn't even really there.

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#3 Posted : 7/14/2013 8:59:28 PM

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Oh yeah, N20 with other entheogens is like a turbo boost. Even alone, it can bring a momentary flash of that familiar multidimensionality feeling.

Nitrous is basically a short term extreme dissociation and can put you in a kind of K-hole or 3rd plateau DXM feeling... of course with its own bizarre twist. It has a bit of the rush of a smoalked tryptamine, but is much less colorful or truly cosmic.

At any rate, I think laughing gas is a fine thing to have around when you want to take a trip that is not quite firing on all cylinders and boost it up a few notches. Even after you come down from the flash, it tends to tip you over into a more flowing and high level. It is also good to solidify and bring on a trip that is not quite kicking in.

Naturally it tends to go best with another disso already present. But it is also quite amazing on LSD or Aya.

disso + tryptamine + n20 = the farthest edge of reality

Was that your first time doing nitrous on a psychedelic? At any rate welcome to the nexus and to that familiar place.

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#4 Posted : 7/14/2013 9:12:33 PM

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Yes, first n2o (not n20 Pleased) combination. And like I said, the effects were pretty mild at the time so it's interesting to think what a stronger mescaline effect would be like with it.

EDIT: an idea just hit me. what if you could put an n2o balloon over the air hole of a vape pipe so you could vape spice with n2o? one big hit!
 
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#5 Posted : 7/14/2013 11:24:51 PM

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Absolutely. Using a n2o balloon during the peak of a trip on 5-6g of psilocybe cubensis gave me one of the strangest experience of my life up until that time (it was before I got hold of any spice). For a brief moment I seriously thought I was on a TV gameshow where the winner was the contestant who could inhale the most n2o. It was a full immersion, the announcer was there, the announcer's hot eyecandy sidekick, the crowd, the lights, everything. After the n2o wore off, I was seriously surprised and confused to find myself back in my living room.

Other times like even the next day after taking a bunch of LSD, it has brought back full-on visuals, and enhancement of music, it is a seriously cool combination. I always wanted to know how/why this happened, but could never find info even just about why n2o works on it's own. Anybody know the details?

n2o in high amounts has always given me a type of carrier wave sound too... like a fractally reverberating WHOMPaaahWHOMPaahWHOMPaah noise.. the first breakthrough I had it reminded me back to taking n2o in that regard.

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#6 Posted : 7/15/2013 12:27:59 AM

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nerevar wrote:
Yes, first n2o (not n20 Pleased) combination. And like I said, the effects were pretty mild at the time so it's interesting to think what a stronger mescaline effect would be like with it.

EDIT: an idea just hit me. what if you could put an n2o balloon over the air hole of a vape pipe so you could vape spice with n2o? one big hit!


I have mixed n20 and spice quite few times to brilliant effect. The easiest thing is to fill a balloon with n20 and then add some spice via shallow tokes (changa is probably best) and immediately breathing them into the balloon. I don't really like crackers for nitrous, so I tend to use a similar technique with a home whipping cream bottle (sans cream of course).

If you get used to not bringing the stuff fully into your lungs it is pretty easy to get a balloon full of a both N20 and Spice vapor. Do this on a decent disso like MXE or DXM (high dosage) and you may just piss yourself.

Hahahaha.

Seriously though. Not for the faint of heart. Cool thing about doing this while already high on something else (LSDXM is awesome) is that even the little micro vapes and n20 that get absorbed while filling the balloon are rather nice... and once you get your balloon filled nicely, you can nurse that puppy into the stratosphere.

That is my 2c anyway.
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#7 Posted : 7/15/2013 1:28:18 AM

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Hello nerevar,

When I've mixed n2o with LSD or ketamine, I get distinct multiple rainbow swirling vortexes combined with the classic wahwahwah's which seems to actually be a combination of my skull vibrating and the synergy of sights and sounds. The visuals are more complex with Ketamine but the auditory enhancement and beautiful soundspace are much more prevalent with LSD+n2o. I can relate to the feeling of familiarity with that cosmic headspace- it feels like that's what reality is, and coming down to Earth will be a short visit away from what is true.

When I do come down to this plane, the auditory changes linger for up to 20 minutes with a good balloon inhale (and LSD), vibratory sounds are less audible as someone's voice mixes with the tinny echoes or resonance that seems to still be my head buzzing or vibrating at a high frequency, and the synergy of sight and sound is enhanced for awhile.

Psychedelic anesthetics like ketamine work by creating a kind of "traffic jam" of information at receptors...
Quote:

"some apparently contradictory information - some drugs like ketamine actually activate rather than suppress neural activity, an action that can cause hallucinations at lower doses. Ketamine blocks receptors for the excitatory transmitter glutamate, but since it has a preference for receptors on certain inhibitory neurons, it actually stimulates activity when it blocks those inhibitors. This excess brain activity generates unconsciousness through a process similar to what happens when disorganized data travels through an electronic communication line and blocks any coherent signal. A similar mechanism underlies seizure-induced unconsciousness."


http://www.news-medical.net/news/201...-and-coma.aspx

So essentially, an information overload prevents "reality" from being sensed. Sound familiar?

If this information is extrapolated to n2o, which, I am unsure if it can be, as I haven't uncovered that in real research, effects would be multiplied. But I feel strongly that it can, because I've felt it... If you've ever read an LSD "thumbprint" report (Chinacat Thumbprint FTW) then you'll hear that megadoses of LSD also do this, sometimes for days, before coming back to this plane... This is all empirical extrapolation, and to be fair idk if actual research exists for what takes place with LSD megadoses and loss of consciousness, for various reasons. (Who would fund it, for what purpose, is it safe?) I think the military did some, but it went more like, "Can we effectively incapacitate the enemy during combat?" Not "How is this all going down in the brain?" I don't even think the technology to measure or understand that existed then, and it may not now. Ketamine is being understood more and more, and n2o pharmacology might be known, but that's all I know.

I know what happens to meeee Big grin "Sensory overload leads to anesthesia."

But those are just my theories. The real pharmacological action of enhancement vs. anesthesia might be a bit more complex.

I've yet to mix all 3. K + LSD + n2o = ???

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#8 Posted : 7/15/2013 2:18:05 AM

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Nitrous feels amazing on top of vaped dmt. I like to take a small breath of nitrous, i usually fill the balloon with 3 or 4 cartridges, and then a small hit of dmt. I usually prime my dmt high to right before breakthrough and then i take a huge hit to push me over and before it kicks in and i don't know whats going on anymore i set the pipe down and take in the rest of the balloon in one breath and hold it in until i cant see the room anymore. The best time i did it i saw a whole bunch of spinning swaztikas on my ceiling and my vision was completely crystalline and kaleidoscopic. You have to smoke weed with it too, always adds a nice body high.
 
 
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