We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
PREV12
Has DMT Changed Your Views On God? Options
 
adam
#21 Posted : 7/13/2013 4:24:42 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 583
Joined: 30-Oct-2012
Last visit: 09-Oct-2019
a nice excerpt

adam attached the following image(s):
tumblr_mk96c7AauE1qc0cxpo1_500 (1).jpg (318kb) downloaded 334 time(s).
 

Explore our global analysis service for precise testing of your extracts and other substances.
 
DisEmboDied
#22 Posted : 7/15/2013 5:24:35 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 552
Joined: 08-May-2012
Last visit: 01-Nov-2024
Was a Christian, went to college, took history courses, became an agnostic almost to the point of atheism, did many grams of DMT, now I totally believe in the possibility of an afterlife, though my D experiences could easily be a total hallucination, but I absolutely cannot discredit them in any way. Basically, I now believe in higher dimensional realities that have nothing to do with man made religions, but at least there may be that.

Alan Watts is my current teacher, his teachings coincide perfectly with my D experiences.
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Rising Spirit
#23 Posted : 7/17/2013 3:56:44 AM

'Tis A Looooooong Wind Blowing Cosmic Dust


Posts: 833
Joined: 15-Feb-2010
Last visit: 16-Feb-2025
Location: Vermont
Nathanial.Dread wrote:
Simple enough question. How about you guys? No one can say they never think about, or have thought about God (or The Goddess or The Gods or whatever). So where do you stand? And how has DMT affected it?
Blessings
~ND

Honestly, DMT hasn't changed my views about God one iota. Surely, it probably would have... but LSD-25, mescaline and psilocybin mushrooms had already blown the doors off the hinges, decades ago. If anything, NN-DMT has only crystallized my views with more clarity, urgency and a more expanded depth of spiritual understanding.

I was always in sheer awe of "God", conceptually and ideologically, since I was a small child. I would gaze up at the stars at night and wonder what kind of immense intelligence had manifested all of this magnificent phenomenon. Humanity at large, never impressed me that much. So much pain and so much disharmony. Sigh... Wut?

That being said, the accomplishments of humankind are sometimes so wonderfully marvelous, sometimes quite horrifically demonic... they extend beyond any scope of harmony or integration with one another. I believe that both Heaven and Hell exist within the minds of mortals and damned if we don't feel compelled to share this dichotomy amongst ourselves and the world we co-inhabit, for good and evil purposes (we're a mixed bag, to say the very least).

Psychedelics gifted me something I can never truly be grateful enough for receiving. For they revealed to my eager understanding, an alternate spin of the conceptual paradigm of a Divine Being existent above the day-to-day fluctuations of mortal life on planet earth. I was astounded to realize that God wasn't some judgmental monster at the top of the pyramid, far away from it's own creation... it WAS the entirety of all realities, unbound and wholly unlimited.

More so, the Divine Being is completely immanent within all that it manifests, subjectively experiencing myriad realities and a vast multiplicity of parallel levels of conscious-awareness, as refracted within the echoing existential parameters, freely expressed throughout all incarnated aspects of the wide spectrum of varied manifestations.

Crafting universes out of itself for the sheer joy of expression? I hesitate to project anthropomorphic characteristics on the Sacred. Such is the folly of fools and charlatans, eh? It's truly impossible for humanoids to describe the motivation of the Supreme Deity or presuppose it's Omniscient intentions. Stop

Also, I feel that God would naturally exist within inert matter, or even the emptiness of the Void, which composes space and the infinite reaches of this ever expanding universe. The most profound realization I was gifted, is that God is you, I and everyone else. God is the totality and the unity. And as cliche as it surely sounds, "All is One".

Some of the wisdom I have gleaned from the higher spheres of conscious-awareness, has revealed to my opening mind, that the anthropomorphic deity worshiped by many humanoids, is a falsification of true reality. God is not a distant and unreachable super-entity, transcending all that it creates, maintains and destroys. When I extended my intention and thus, immersed myself within this Unified Field of inter-connected energy...

All other present manifestations, being: particles, waves, atoms, molecules, elements, gases, minerals, vegetables, countless animal species, etc... were found to be co-existent equals within this dimensional paradigm, experiencing existence from their own unique windows into this universe we share together. God is all of this, too.

I found the belief that the Divine Spirit is indivisible, Omnipresent and most immanent in all of it's own spontaneous expression. We are each of us God. All is God. Naught exists but thoughts emanating effulgently from within the Godhead! Big grin

Naturally, this new found information required that I modify my religious beliefs. I began to see that The Divine was in actuality the Unified Field of Being. It interlinks with all it creates, forming symmetry of the Grid. So, I discovered that there is but one singularity of intelligence, a truly Supra-consciousness. It peeks out from behind the veil of Self and perceives itself through it's own manifested creation. Like a mirroring of itself.

Likewise, it is also transcendental, ineffable, insubstantial and wholly unbound by any form or characteristic. Yet is flows endlessly throughout everything, like meandering liquid. It shines from within all that is perceivable and even beyond any subjective perspective or rational attempt at cognitive quantification.

So, obviously there exists a great paradox to this cosmic dance. No one can ever say with any certainty just WHY Brahman manifested the multiplicities of universes. But it is moot point, as we exist and ponder our own existence, using reason and intuition alone, to find the truth.

I could go on and on... but I have to deal with reality as it unfolds before me, personally. This involves interaction with family and friends (which is also how I view all of you fellow Nexians). I'll catch up later on, Guys & Gals.

Namaste to each of you! Thumbs up


There is no self to which I cling, for I am one with everything.
 
jamie
#24 Posted : 7/17/2013 4:48:39 AM

DMT-Nexus member

Salvia divinorum expert | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growingSenior Member | Skills: Plant growing, Ayahuasca brewing, Mushroom growing

Posts: 12340
Joined: 12-Nov-2008
Last visit: 02-Apr-2023
Location: pacific
You only have to realize that the face of creation is staring you in the face.
Long live the unwoke.
 
Hyperspace Fool
#25 Posted : 7/17/2013 5:54:11 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 1654
Joined: 08-Aug-2011
Last visit: 25-Jun-2014
jamie wrote:
You only have to realize that the face of creation is staring you in the face.

... through your face.Shocked

Yes. The infinite includes everything... including you.
Love
"Curiouser and curiouser..." ~ Alice

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it." ~ Buddha
 
#26 Posted : 7/17/2013 10:10:10 AM
DMT-Nexus member

ModeratorSenior Member

Posts: 4612
Joined: 17-Jan-2009
Last visit: 07-Mar-2024
Rising Spirit wrote:
Nathanial.Dread wrote:
Simple enough question. How about you guys? No one can say they never think about, or have thought about God (or The Goddess or The Gods or whatever). So where do you stand? And how has DMT affected it?
Blessings
~ND

Honestly, DMT hasn't changed my views about God one iota. Surely, it probably would have... but LSD-25, mescaline and psilocybin mushrooms had already blown the doors off the hinges, decades ago. If anything, NN-DMT has only crystallized my views with more clarity, urgency and a more expanded depth of spiritual understanding.

I was always in sheer awe of "God", conceptually and ideologically, since I was a small child. I would gaze up at the stars at night and wonder what kind of immense intelligence had manifested all of this magnificent phenomenon. Humanity at large, never impressed me that much. So much pain and so much disharmony. Sigh... Wut?

That being said, the accomplishments of humankind are sometimes so wonderfully marvelous, sometimes quite horrifically demonic... they extend beyond any scope of harmony or integration with one another. I believe that both Heaven and Hell exist within the minds of mortals and damned if we don't feel compelled to share this dichotomy amongst ourselves and the world we co-inhabit, for good and evil purposes (we're a mixed bag, to say the very least).

Psychedelics gifted me something I can never truly be grateful enough for receiving. For they revealed to my eager understanding, an alternate spin of the conceptual paradigm of a Divine Being existent above the day-to-day fluctuations of mortal life on planet earth. I was astounded to realize that God wasn't some judgmental monster at the top of the pyramid, far away from it's own creation... it WAS the entirety of all realities, unbound and wholly unlimited.

More so, the Divine Being is completely immanent within all that it manifests, subjectively experiencing myriad realities and a vast multiplicity of parallel levels of conscious-awareness, as refracted within the echoing existential parameters, freely expressed throughout all incarnated aspects of the wide spectrum of varied manifestations.

Crafting universes out of itself for the sheer joy of expression? I hesitate to project anthropomorphic characteristics on the Sacred. Such is the folly of fools and charlatans, eh? It's truly impossible for humanoids to describe the motivation of the Supreme Deity or presuppose it's Omniscient intentions. Stop

Also, I feel that God would naturally exist within inert matter, or even the emptiness of the Void, which composes space and the infinite reaches of this ever expanding universe. The most profound realization I was gifted, is that God is you, I and everyone else. God is the totality and the unity. And as cliche as it surely sounds, "All is One".

Some of the wisdom I have gleaned from the higher spheres of conscious-awareness, has revealed to my opening mind, that the anthropomorphic deity worshiped by many humanoids, is a falsification of true reality. God is not a distant and unreachable super-entity, transcending all that it creates, maintains and destroys. When I extended my intention and thus, immersed myself within this Unified Field of inter-connected energy...

All other present manifestations, being: particles, waves, atoms, molecules, elements, gases, minerals, vegetables, countless animal species, etc... were found to be co-existent equals within this dimensional paradigm, experiencing existence from their own unique windows into this universe we share together. God is all of this, too.

I found the belief that the Divine Spirit is indivisible, Omnipresent and most immanent in all of it's own spontaneous expression. We are each of us God. All is God. Naught exists but thoughts emanating effulgently from within the Godhead! Big grin

Naturally, this new found information required that I modify my religious beliefs. I began to see that The Divine was in actuality the Unified Field of Being. It interlinks with all it creates, forming symmetry of the Grid. So, I discovered that there is but one singularity of intelligence, a truly Supra-consciousness. It peeks out from behind the veil of Self and perceives itself through it's own manifested creation. Like a mirroring of itself.

Likewise, it is also transcendental, ineffable, insubstantial and wholly unbound by any form or characteristic. Yet is flows endlessly throughout everything, like meandering liquid. It shines from within all that is perceivable and even beyond any subjective perspective or rational attempt at cognitive quantification.

So, obviously there exists a great paradox to this cosmic dance. No one can ever say with any certainty just WHY Brahman manifested the multiplicities of universes. But it is moot point, as we exist and ponder our own existence, using reason and intuition alone, to find the truth.

I could go on and on... but I have to deal with reality as it unfolds before me, personally. This involves interaction with family and friends (which is also how I view all of you fellow Nexians). I'll catch up later on, Guys & Gals.

Namaste to each of you! Thumbs up




Great post! As always. Pleased

much love,
tat
 
Rising Spirit
#27 Posted : 7/17/2013 7:40:31 PM

'Tis A Looooooong Wind Blowing Cosmic Dust


Posts: 833
Joined: 15-Feb-2010
Last visit: 16-Feb-2025
Location: Vermont
DisEmboDied wrote:
Basically, I now believe in higher dimensional realities that have nothing to do with man made religions, but at least there may be that.

Alan Watts is my current teacher, his teachings coincide perfectly with my D experiences.

Ditto, Alan was a wonderful philosopher and a spiritual giant. His teachings greatly influenced my thoughts when I was coming of age, way back in the 1970s (and he still does influence me, to this day).

I highly recommend his book, THIS IS IT. A really beautiful read. Thumbs up Thumbs up

This is an interesting lecture of his, put to soothing music and beautiful images:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Kfd8tic-M



There is no self to which I cling, for I am one with everything.
 
DisEmboDied
#28 Posted : 7/28/2013 2:53:17 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 552
Joined: 08-May-2012
Last visit: 01-Nov-2024
Alan Watts: "This is it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3hVc2hWYxg


I only worship nature.
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Baby Bonnie Hood
#29 Posted : 8/4/2013 10:37:48 PM

Grey jedi


Posts: 81
Joined: 12-Mar-2013
Last visit: 17-Dec-2019
Location: Åland islands
Not thanks to any specific hallucinogens but over the years I've gone from a full-blown skeptic atheist to someone who accept's the concept of God as nothing but a "concept" of something that we fully do not understand. I don't see "God" as a single entity or ruler of everything. Maybe God is the network between every living thing in the multiverse? I don't know - and I'm content not knowing.

Adam: Nice. Looks like a chapter in The Satanic Bible.
LaVey -satanists in case you didn't know, also talk a lot about how each and one of us is our own god.
My threads: Intro - DMT first time - My mushrooms

I'm not all that I can be....
 
benzyme
#30 Posted : 8/4/2013 10:48:35 PM

analytical chemist

Moderator | Skills: Analytical equipment, Chemical master expertExtreme Chemical expert | Skills: Analytical equipment, Chemical master expertChemical expert | Skills: Analytical equipment, Chemical master expertSenior Member | Skills: Analytical equipment, Chemical master expert

Posts: 7463
Joined: 21-May-2008
Last visit: 14-Jan-2025
Location: the lab
god is "the energy", and observing the conservation of energy "law", well...
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
 
the white rabbit
#31 Posted : 8/9/2013 7:12:35 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 90
Joined: 07-Aug-2013
Last visit: 05-Jun-2016
I was taught that there is one true God that created all things including us. Through my teens I didn't care, in my 20's I was curious because I was searching, in my 30's I was married and had a child and tried to follow God and live life based on His word because that is what I was taught. My view on God at that time was untouched. Then tragedy hit, I lost "everything" and became feral with anger and a burning question kept flying out of my mouth, why God? I will never forget the months I spent alone crying trying to drink myself to death. Did I see God or any form of angelic beings come to assist me or bring me comfort? No. I then began to ask the questions I never in my entire life thought I would. God are you there? Do you exist? Time passed and I started wondering what was I left with to live for. Then I had the chance to do my first DMT hit. I remember prior to taking the hit I was asked what do I want from life. I gave some automated answers but had no idea. To be honest I did not care if it was going to kill me. I also had no idea what it was, I saw a Vaporizer and a bag, I had no idea what it would do but I did not care. I took one lung full and, I know since then I have seen videos of people taking many hits, I can honestly say one lung full and it was freaking all over. Or better yet my life was about to begin.

During the trip there was a monumental moment where something changed, I can not explain it but my reality was shifted or altered and until now things are so different. What exactly happened I am not sure. Was it some kind of chemical reaction that affected the circuits in my brain? Or was it a blessing from God? Or was it both. What else can cause that kind of shift in my conscience state of mind? I want to believe it was God and a divine moment, I truly do. But honestly I do not believe I will ever know while I live and breathe. I think to view God would be so hard to comprehend that if we did in this body our brains would explode, because on DMT I got a glimpse of the extraterrestrial world and it baffled me so much I feel like my DNA has changed.

Has my view on God changed since my profound DMT experience? Yes. I am reminded that my brain can not understand the meaning of God much less a view. Will I switch my perspective on God, reality, and my purpose? I can say I do not know. I do know I tread carefully but will keep acquiring knowledge through educating myself.
 
Du57mi73
#32 Posted : 8/16/2013 8:18:12 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 699
Joined: 06-Jul-2012
Last visit: 20-Dec-2018
Dmt has not changed my opinion of god, but it has allowed me to comprehend god better.
"I am cursed by the blossoming knowledge of my feminine ideal and she looks suspiciously like you."

"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." -AE
 
What a substance
#33 Posted : 9/1/2013 7:50:31 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 258
Joined: 25-May-2013
Last visit: 23-Oct-2017
Well there seems to be a God, Gods, a Lord and a Lord God. Plus a benevolent serpent. Then there is Jehovah and Allah and Yahweh and the Tetragrammaton not to miss out Osiris, Thor and Zeus. Wut?

Has DMT changed my views on God? Well no! With all those names its clearly a public relations disaster! Confused

Has DMT changed my views on what must but a supreme and infinite and nameless power in the universe...(the thing that does not get men to write holy books)? Allow me to taste some vapour and I'll get right back to you... Laughing



Author of: DMT & My Occult Mind: Investigation of Occult Realities using the Spirit Molecule

The whole cosmos is guided, controlled and animated by an almost endless series of hierarchies of sentient beings, each having a mission to perform. They vary infinitely in their respective degrees of consciousness and intelligence. THE SECRET DOCTRINE
 
PREV12
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest (2)

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.060 seconds.