Could SWIM use Vinegar to salt a Xylene pull from an MHRB solution basified with Lye?

What SWIM doesn't understand is Q21Q21's Vinegar/Lime tek says you can only use vinegar when your material is basified with lime. But a solvent shouldn't carry over the ph of whatever basified solution one's pulling from, right?

So can SWIM use vinegar to salt his Xylene pull if SWIM used lye to basify his MHRB?

Sorry if this has been covered ad infinitum--SWIM couldn't find it in the search feature.

Mil gracias.

Yes you can use vinegar to salt xylene regardless of the previous steps.

What do you plan on doing after salting?

Thank you for the response.

To answer: SWIM honestly hadn't gotten that far.

What is the preferred method for isolating alkaloids from vinegar?

The point here, I should probably mention, was that SWIM was trying to clean up/wash the goopy red-brown stuff that was pulled during his last extraction with xylene. SWIM may be confused, though, as he's prone to confuzzlement.

Evaping a few 100ml of vinegar would be smelly and slow. Can one use heptane to pull actives from the vinegar and add in sodium carbonate and separate the layers and evap the heptane?

Thanks.

The dmt will be in salt form, as acetate, in vinegar. If you mix naphtha with that, the naphtha will NOT pick up the DMT, but will rather pick up other things that are not DMT. This is what is effectively called a defat.

Did you arleady redissolved your goopy alkaloids in xylene? If not, why dont you simply recrystallize with your naphtha?

If you are willing to get some fumaric acid and acetone, you can also salt your xylene with FASA, and that way you wont have to evaporate vinegar but rather will have your alkaloids precipitate as fumarates from your xylene. Then you can convert them to freebase if you want or consume as-is (after doing a recommended acetone wash to remove xylene traces).

Or you can salt with vinegar, add a base (if sodium carbonate, add VERY slowly and just a little bit at a time otherwise you get volcano effect... maybe better lye) and then pull with naphtha. Or you can evaporate vinegar till almost the end and then mix with sodium carbonate, then there will be less volcano effect, then pull with naphtha

etc... many options, whatever you feel more comfortable with

Thanks very much for your assistance!

Pooh will be trying FASA in the near future, but has some reading to do yet.

It sounds like the recrystallization with naphtha/heptane would be the easiest at this point, given what Pooh has on hand.

Many thanks!

Pooh is confused again after reading Q21Q21's tek.

If he pulls from the MHRB with Xylene, he will get jimjam. This is just fine--Pooh intends to explore with this and is not concerned about isolating DMT.
If he were to salt the Xylene with vinegar, then the jimjam alkaloids are converted to an acetate salt? From Q21Q21's tek, heat evaporation of the vinegar is recommended.
Is the jimjam in this acetate form resistant to heat in such a way that it would not boil off when heated in the vinegar solution?

If this is the case, how does this form of the end product (jimjam acetate) melting point compare to that of freebase DMT?

Thank you.