Hi guys, I've done 2 different batches of changa, with the first being my first ever DMT experience, I haven't done DMT crystals yet. I noticed significant differences in the effects, the first lot made everything around me look like pristine lego blocks and I was able to walk around my flat and admire its new state before sitting down and hitting the pipe again and breaking through. I was blown away by how awesome stuff looked pre-breakthrough, breakthrough was nuts too. The second batch didnt give the pristine effect, it created more organic patterns like heiroglyphic relief patterns on my wall, and it also created some unpleasant dark smears in my peripheral vision, causing me to turn my sight towards the lighter more pleasant visions. It also was too strong to coordinate myself to achieve full breakthrough, when I took a hit I'd instantly almost breakthrough and be too far gone to take another dose. How comes the effects are so different, is it to do with the kind of leaf? I've got yet another bit which I haven't tried, the leaves look lighter and greener than the previous lot, wondering what this ones gonna be like

Whats the difference between the two batches? (what herb/dmt ratio did you use? did you add in harmalas? what kind of leaf? etc etc)

Each dmt trip, even with the same exact material/batch, can be night in day in terms of the difference in affects...so coming to the conclusion that these differences are due to the different batches is usually a really tricky thing to do. The only time I notice a big difference is with 10x caapi changa compared to plain caapi leaf changa...but thats to be expected given the huge surplus of harmalas

Even if you have the same dmt to leaf ratio the effects can vary considerably from one time to the next. DMT is funny stuff. Sometimes it seems it only takes the tiniest bit to break through then other times smoking the same stuff it seems almost impossible to have a full break through. When it doesn't happen after a couple good hits I'll normally just figure it's not my time and come back to it in a day or two. No point wasting the stuff.

The point is its kind of unpredictable and no two dmt experiences are the same.

Wow I didnt know the difference in experience varied to that degree, the changas being acquired through a friend, not by myself unfortunately. Since posting, I've had some of the third G, this one sits between the first two in terms of effects so what you guys have said is ringing true. I also closed my eyes for the first time and witnessed what I remember as a fractal-enriched dance of twisting coiling robotic arms like Dr Optopus' in Spiderman, at one point the scene started to form into a woman and I felt she was about to start communicating with me, that shocked me a bit and I opened my eyes with a gasp (lol) and but she was gone when I closed them back. Chest and lung pain a lot more present this time too..

I know exactly what they mean by the DMT experience differing a great amount. Even though there are clearly DMT-distinct effects present during each experience, each experience apparently doesn't have the same outcome, i find this mostly has to do with Set and Setting. I've had MANY Ayahuasca sessions, but have just recently started with Changa.

My first batch was pretty much mostly DMT with a little hint of Harmalas from the little bit of Passion Flower in an herbal smoking mix i had, and the effects of that were somewhat consistent with only a few odd experiences.

My second batch, is more Harmala heavy, and the other night i smoked on some for about 3 hours and had the most blissful, relaxing, and orgazmic experience i've had lately, but the next day i noticed i came down with a stomach bug (not Changa related, something the family has too) and when i smoked some Changa that night it was a not-so-good experience and i ended up having to puke and it just wasn't my time.

I'm hoping to get more Changa action in sometime or another, when the time is right i suppose.

Let us know how it goes