any of you nexians practice quigon? if so, does DMT aid in "opening the kundalini", or aid you in meditation, helping you more easily guide the kundalani? I must say my interest hs been peaked.

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We're just having a discussion on Martial Arts here:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=41284

Seems plenty of nexians practice different modalities, some are more involved with Chi sort of work. Hyperspace Fool might be able to give you better feedback in this area.

I've never been instructed in qi work, though I lived with someone who was very into tantra and learned a few things regarding subtle energy work.

I think any of these practices work great in conjunction with psychedelics. Breathing is usually a very important part of it. The indigenous people often have breathing-related techniques too.

Concentration, controlled breathing, self-observation, paying attention to patterns and inner flow of energies, maintaining calm, directing where you want to go etc. All of this is very important.

great! thanks for the feed back, i was beginning to think this thread would die sad and alone.

Ill give that thread a look as well, thanks

Yeah, longtime chi kung practitioner.

I find that a chi kung practice is extremely helpful when tripping, and I do practice it quite a bit when on longer journeys... but for smoalked DMT, there is generally no time to do any real exercises per se.

You certainly move energy and can do amazing things, but it must be ingrained in you already... to the point where you can direct the chi purely by intent. Often times on breakthroughs, the idea of moving a body that you don't really have anymore is a comical concept.

With Aya and the other entheogens that have decent length of effect, I nearly always practice some. I feel like I have to do some energy work usually. If I don't I often feel stuck or blocked and the trip is not nearly as powerful an experience.

I wouldn't say that DMT or any entheogens aid in meditation as much as I would say that meditation aids in the entheogenic experience. Some entheogens do make the energy more obvious, which can be an asset for beginners... especially if you can't sense it directly yet. But I think the entheogens are more of a challenge for meditation... that you can rise to meet. If you do it correctly, you eventually have this "mental backflip" experience where you get on top of the trip... and from then on out, you are riding the trip instead of it riding you.

I am not sure if this is exactly what you wanna hear, but in general I think that meditation and chi kung are essential and that any mental journey you take is a kind of meditation and as such your skills that you have developed will pay off.

I think of it like this. Your normal cultivation is like working out in a swimming pool. Taking entheogens is like swimming out to sea in often rough waters. If anything, it makes your swimming harder... but having practiced swimming will make it easier to deal with the ocean. If that makes any sense.

Wow great information hyperspace fool, and I have been practicing meditation ever since I was a kid and went to a Buddhist monistary nearby my home. so i look forward to implementing my experience with meditation on aya or any other ethogen. Its a great idea, but for some reason iv never thought of meditating while tripping. I laid on the ground for 4 hours on acid once, but I doubt that counts next time I'm planning on "expanding my mind" so to speak i will defiantly give meditation a try.
thanks again for all the info

hey sgt wow. thanks for that link, I'm really liking the book.

peace

fascinating stuff. Martial Arts definitely adds to the universal connection. The body is meant be active and can achieve incredible feats once honed. I think its one of the neglected aspects of life that many of our heros never participated in.