A question to seasoned travellers, when on cid or shrooms you are always conscious of the fact that you have taken something and that it will run its course, is this the same as DMT when you breakthro'? are you aware at all times that you have taken a mind altering chemical that will take you on a journey and then bring you back?

No. For me a breakthrough is when I completely "forget" the consensual world, and I completely forget who I was before I hit the pipe...

But I guess this "forgetting" of your identity/world etc. also applies other psychedelics as well (I have experienced this also on Mushrooms and Aya/Pharma)so IMO, ... is a result of taking too little - as bard McKenna liked to say

Nope. I would say I'm cognizant of the journey being facilitated by DMT about 50% of the time I break through.

The funniest time was when I came out of a journey to be surrounded by entities laughing and smiling at me as I stared at them in awe and confusion. They kept laughing and pointing at my chest, to which I responded telepathically, "I don't care about my chest, what is going on?!". After a while, I finally decided to look down and see the pipe laying on my chest that I dropped when I broke through

I've honestly never b broken through smoking DMT, only my first experience with 5meo do I think was a 'breakthrough', and no, I was under the district impression that I was completely dead. I remember that at the beginning I thought I had taken a poison, but then no, I don't think I was cognizant of being on anything. At that point it mattered very little.

That forgetting is something I've always experienced with breakthrough dosages. During the peak I'm completely unaware of everything that existed before I took the toke.

Yes and no.

Had a few low doses where I was aware but didnt really think about it.

Others I had no idea what was even going on or that something WAS going on. Also a couple times as I was coming back I thought "I'm on mushrooms".

On an intensely deep breakthrough..







no

I've never smoked pure DMT, it's always been with Harmalas whether smoked or taken orally. But so far, pretty much every experience (even high dose oral DMT) i've been fully aware of my body and fully aware that i have taken DMT. DMT for me isn't about breaking through, seeing visuals or contacting entities, for me DMT and the Harmalas not only can help my Aspergers, but it's also more about feeling for me than it is blasting off.

I'd say i'm pretty experienced, since i took Ayahuasca at least twice a week all last year, mainly low doses of DMT but i have had several high doses (even DMT with Moclobemide several times which was really scary). Wouldn't call myself a pro though, there are clearly those who have taken it balls to the wall, whereas me, i like more comfortable waters and reserve high dosing for those special nights.

I usually know I'm on DMT. I tend to retain rather full awareness from start to completion. Sometimes during a deep breakthrough, I may get so distracted and swept up in everything that I casually forget that I'm in a DMT experience (or doing anything for that matter) but as soon as the thought hits me of "what's going on?" I instantly know. I don't get the same kind of identity/history loss that I do with salvia. In the case of salvia, I can exhale, and 10 seconds later I won't know my name, who I am, or what I took to "get here". Even if I happen to remember that the drug I took was called "salvia" I have still said back to myself, "salvia...I wonder what that does..." even though it would be happening that instant. I don't find that with DMT. It's more like getting super-distracted (or being so in the moment, that there's little room or need to analyze - just experience.

My first and last DMT experience (still integrating and building up the courage to launch again 3 years later) was eyeballed and extremely intense and life changing.

From the (micro)second I exhaled I forgot that I took DMT and lost all touch with this reality.

For a big part of the experience I even forgot that I exist.

I guess the scary part was realizing I am me, but forgetting I took DMT.

*btw...eyeballing sucks! Please don't...*

It all depends on how much you smoke really. When taking lower doses and not breaking through, I can usually remember that I smoked SOMETHING to make me like this, at least after a minute of thinking about it.

On higher breakthrough doses though, I am completely unaware that I have taken something. It is a little frightening to be that gone and not remember how you got there, but once you have done it a few times its not as bad. You still cant remember though.

As for the mushrooms or cid, if you are still able to remember you ingested something, you took a small dose. I have had experiences on mushrooms where I have had ego death, and just sat in a chair staring at my surroundings twisting and warping into unimaginable shapes, then melting away to show a whole new plane of existence/world. At that point I was not even able to leave my chair, but was able to traverse this new world in my mind. It was like my spirit had the ability to roam, while my body was frozen in place. At the same time, I was completely unaware that this was not reality.

So it all depends on the dosage. These ego shattering experiences can be the most enlightening and life changing experiences you will ever have, you just have to let go and know that nothing bad will happen.

Edit: Also, like Teo said, DO NOT EYEBALL! I made this mistake my first time smoking, and smoked around 60-70mg...Worst/best experience of my life if that makes sense. It was the most frightening thing ever but the most blissful trancedential experience at the same time.

Thankyou for your enlightning replies - tbh i cant remember alot of my trips on shrooms or cid (I am 50 and started on these substances when i was 19)But i did have some pretty earth shattering trips when acid was 150mcs min and up to 300 .I also use to pick my own shrooms in somerset UK and even picked some on the tor and tripped up there many times.
I am guilty of eyeballing every dose i take but its all ways on the small size probably no more than 30mgs - but then I have been a heroin addict off and on for all these years so I know what .1 looks like pretty well: )

If I were to get used to eyeballing my fluffy white DMT and then tried to eyeball the same amount of my more yellow DMT it would be almost double the dose and that can turn out not so good. I use a mg scoop to transfer to and from my mg scale, I've gotten pretty good at eyeballing low doses but it becomes almost impossible the more you increase it.

So anything more than three small scoops and I weigh it for sure. 30mgs isn't a small dose if you are vaping it correctly. I've broken through multiple times on 15mg and anything over 25mg starts getting way intense and crazy.

I have had about 20 or so mini journeys with no more than 15mgs or so BUT i was always smoking from a foil (chasing the dragon style) which is not very good. 2-3 weeks ago i bought a hash pipe and did a ash sandwich with about 20-25mg and was v close to breakthro then. I am waiting for the right time to load the pipe with more to just 'go for broke' but i dont want to do it when heroin is in my system which is hard as if i have cash thats what i buy and if i dont i take methadone pills.
I am meeting an old friend at the end of the month who i have tripped with many times on shrooms and acid but due to the fact he lives far away i only see him once a year so im hoping he will be up for trying some if so thats when i will go for a bigger dose as having him with me will lessen any anxiety - just hope he's up for it.