We are more than capable of breaking through with our spice and methods, however after continual use (2-3 hours) maybe 4 or 5 separate journeys we are able to hit the spice and then remain awake and walk around the house. Our current favourite is in the kitchen where all of the appliances and items literally come to life !!

are you smoking breakthrough doses everytime ?

could you expand on this ........

I often get a few good minutes of this after a Heavy Breakthrough dose. Not sure if there is a name for it.. Great question. I do agree though. This is a very enjoyable part of the experience.. Maybe it doesn't get as much attention on account of the fact that there are no real lessons in that state?? you're just trippin! is this your experience, or do you find that this state is eye opening/ self expanding?

The only thing I noticed while in this state that was helpful for me, was that sometimes things would appear in more than one place at the same time, but not overlap anything else. As if additional space had been created in the room for the duplicate, without making the room larger. I have since come across places in breakthrough hyperspace, that are entirely like this, and found it easier to navigate the space since I had an idea about it's nature from my sub breakthrough ( or post breakthrough) "trips".. Even still the lesson was minor compared to the all out life altering visions and journey's in a breakthrough state.

Do you usually close your eyes for normal breakthroughs or open? I've def read and experiences DMT losing some of its strength after indulging a few too many times.

What you are describing sounds to me like a normal open eye experience.

Right… so spice isn't ready available but you can get it from a few places, try searching on topic, you can get varied mixes (I had changa) but the quantities of spice vary.

So a friend has gone through the process of making his own spice, it's quite a long process of extracting from bark…. I'm not interested in that to be honest, I'm more interesting in inhaling the stuff! You can find about making it on the internet.

Over the past months I've hit it once or twice a week, it's crazy shit to be fair but good crazy shit, I actually thought last night that it can become addictive but with a clear(ish) head today I don't think it is.

A couple of weeks ago I hit it after having a few beers, seems to relax me a bit and gives me a better experience. We use a large bong and a small one (the small one seems to let the vapour off better), we've also used a half a plastic bottle with foil, but this is hit and miss, you really have to make sure you don't burn the spice but rather let it melt.

So my hit a few weeks ago I'm in a darkish room with chill out out music on. I start to get halosagenics, I close my eyes as it seems to speed up the process and bit and then suddenly it hits me, I can only describe this effect as the shape of your mind expands bigger that your head. I always seem to start with what I can only describe as a roulette wheel effect with the middle missing and which this drops in to a hole, the surface of all of this is smallish squares that are all very vibrant colours…. Some times I see a jester, or what I think is a jester and then I dive down the hole, it's like he's welcoming me I guess?

Various times once I've gone down the hole I've had really different experiences… vikings behind a wall off ice with ice bars like they're in jail trying to get me (didn't scare me) and also a time when I was going across a rope bridge with loads of snakes and crocodiles below… I've also had just very colourful, Tron like effects where I've been wondering through streets and buildings with various things going on around me…

Last night however we changed the music to a bit more of an upbeat chill out album and also I started off in the kitchen, with the light on… every other time I mentioned I'd be in a dark room, and once in I'd have my eyes shut, and maybe lay down during my trip. I had my eyes fully open, and started taking in the spice. A few inhales and everything became wavy, looking out of the kitchen window the window frame, the items around the window and bottles all because a marshmellow like effect, swaying… I take a few more hits and look at the black tiled floor and it all starts to go gold and silver with again, swaying effects… but then apart from the tile I'm stood on the others seem to drain away like sand running… a couple more puffs and I've gone, I'm still conscious but I'm serious in another place even though it looked the same, things were clearly different though, I looked over to the hob and it was jumping out, looked brand new, every glisten caught my eye… I then look around and everything is like it's been drawn, like a cartoon but very well drawn… I did forget where I was for a bit even though I knew consciously where I was, it was fucking amazing, the kitchen looked like it had never been used… I walked up and down it and looking around and focusing on little things… I had definitely pushed through to the other side. Being in a lit room was making this the best trip I'd had… I ended up walking round the house, at one put I felt like my feet were around 6 inches below the actually floor level, I appeared to try and step out of it a couple of times… thinking about it now I recall a moment I felt like I was walking in water and very Avatar like… I slowly started to come round, in amazement as it was proper good… I really enjoyed it… It really is hard to explain as you just simply can't remember everything you experience!

Next time we hit it like last night I want to do it outside, in the evening, when the sun is still out and a clear sky…