Hi all,

I've been interested in all things hippie ever since I read the "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" by our bush-loving friend Thomas Wolfe, when I was in high school. This was also my first introduction to DMT, which in my mind Thomas Wolfe made sound more extreme than LSD. Despite my fascination, I waited many years before I even tried any psychedelics at all. Part of the reason was that I had migraines with an aurora, and even socializing was difficult at the time. Fortunatly, by the time I was in University, the migraines had stopped and I was happily lighting up some bud every practically every night with friends.

Last year I finally decided to try some acid. It wasn't LSD as we thought, but 2-CB as we learned later. My friends were rather experienced, and one decided that I should go and take two tabs. Its not my favorite music, but this song, http://youtu.be/JRwXku3nM1c, with 2-CB was my first psychedelic experience. Those girls in the image were licking the icecream, blinking their eyelids, singing along, and generally gyrating. Pretty sexy, and the whole time I thought that was the actual video. I was more excited by the infection of the rest of the room with the video everywhere.

Then I went to a quiet place, and looked out at a parking lot. My friend came into the room, and I closed the curtain. At the same time, he turned on the light. I think that between the lights in the parking lot, the curtain closing, and the light turning on, there must of been three flashes. I had an epileptic seizure.

My whole life blew up. I blew up. All my memories and experience became shattered pieces of crystal and soon I didn't know who I was or where I was. This lasted for several hours while my friends had to restrain me and keep my vomit out of my lungs. However, as I started coming back, my memories slowly started coming back to me. There is nothing as inspiring as remembering who your brother is, or where you've been. Although dealing with me was awful for my friends, it was one of the best experiences I've had.

However, not even I wanted to have another seizure like that. So, at a recommendation from my friend, I started experimenting slowly with DMT. A small oral dose in the dark lead to a great deal of thinking, but schematically. I could almost see my thoughts. Something also kept visiting me and leaving. A small amount of changa smoked from a bong lead to seeing designs on the wall. I smoked a lot more changa in Zion national park. Shiva appeared out of the clouds and started dancing. The mountains turned into ancient dead giants resting peacefully.

Currently I have no one who can provide me with DMT. I tried a small extraction using Acacia Confusa, but either I did not cook the bark enough or its simply not a good source. I'll find out later, I did one last cook before I left that location, and left the heptane in a jar to evaporate very slowly with my brother. Helpfully he'll tell me there are lots of crystals!

I'm currently in Italy, and I decided to collect what I really hope is 450g of Phalaris Aquatica AQ1. The broth is reducing now; I'll use dreamer042's Hippie Salad Tek (https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=44863) to extract it. I wanted to find Naphtha or Heptane, but Italy like California proves to be a hard location to find such chemicals in standard consumer locations.

That's it. I'm joining because I think I'll be doing this for a while, and I better get good at extracting. Because I travel so much, I'll have to be flexible with my teks, requiring even more knowledge that I need to gather.

I have several questions:
1) Do you agree that DMT is less likely to cause grand-mal seizures than other psychedelics? Should I be extra careful with MAOI's, will they make a seizure more likely?
2) Are there any cases of people with histories of migraines being hurt or helped by DMT? So far I've only heard good things for DMT, bad things regarding other psychedelics and migraines.
3) It was suggested that Phalaris be stored in alcohol in the fridge if the extraction isn't done right away. However, I'm worried that if the alcohol isn't pure (I have 95% ethanol right now) that the DMT being in a plant it should be in an acidic solution naturally and therefore soluble in water, will get absorbed into the alcohol, and then when I remove the material from the alcohol, I'll lose DMT. Is this a non-issue?
4) Can sulfites, like those found in vinegar or wine, be washed out of the extraction at some point? I suppose that since they are in an aqueous solution, that they are soluble in water, and if they are insolbule in non-polar then yes, they will be washed out when I do wash of the non-polar with water?

Love,
Anon Hippie

With regards to migraine—I have once used it as abortive medication for migraine when I couldn't get hold of Sumatriptan. I can't confirm whether it worked as I get a range of types of migraine including short aura-only migraines. That time didn't develop into a full classic migraine (historically these are the bulk of the migraines I experience).

DMT is related to the triptans (Sumatriptan, Rizatriptan etc) which are also tryptamines. Many have found that mushrooms have helped them with cluster headaches. Some ergoloids are used in the treatment of migraine too, LSD also being of this family.

I have never heard of anything in the phenethylamine family to have been used for migraine, and have no knowledge of possible issues. I do find a lot of them rather stimulating so I am not sure of they would be the best thing to play with if you had a lot of migraines.

I have never heard of any issues regarding neurological issues with anything but phenethylamines (I have heard of seizures and deaths with some recently). Are you saying you have heard of issues with tryptamines and ergoloids too?

d*l*b, that's fascinating that you can use DMT to abort a migraine. How did you administer the DMT, and how much?

I have heard of LSD being used experimentally in the treatment of migraines, but I've also heard anecdotally of people with histories with migraines to have bad trips. There is one in the In the Electric Kool-Aid Acid test for example.

I'm no expert at all, however, what I've heard is very unsubstantiated. I've always read it as migraines indicate a less robust brain chemistry; I for example apparently have a lower seizure threshold than most people who take 2-CB. Of course seizures on 2-CB seem more common than with LSD.

I cannot be sure how much I dosed as I don't keep records but I think it was somewhere in the region of 15mg, smoked in a normal pipe (not vaporized, this was before things like the GVG came to my attention). My minimum dose for psychedelic effects working that was is 40-50mg.

As I noted before, I cannot be sure that it was effective as I occasionally get migraines that don't get beyond the aura phase, however there was a feeling like a release of pressure in my head that made me feel something significant had happened.

I don't think it is a large step to say that something with such great structural similarity to most of the abortive medicines available on prescriptions should also work for aborting migraine. I won't jump to try doing this again as I have very effective medication in Rizatriptan, the only reason I tried it was as a last chance as I was starting to get a migraine and could not get hold of any medication.


Interesting, what do you mean by "bad trip"? Physically difficult? Mentally challenging?


I've never had, seen or heard of any issues with 2C-B and seizures until your post. I have heard quite a bit recently with the NBOMe series, which are related so it doesn't surprise me. I have found both the 2C-* and the 25*-NBOMe series to be physically taxing personally, but it doesn't feel like it has any relation to my migraine issues.

I've read about someone who trips alot, and frequently 2C-B gave them grand mal seizures. On the other hand, I don't know 100% if that was 2C-B, but that is what my friend thought.

I'd like to answer your question re. the bad trip, but I honestly don't know.

Thank you so much for all this information d*l*b, its been helpful.

Another great thing about italy is that you cannot find distilled white vinegar. The best I could do was white wine vinegar. The sludge I got at the end smelled only of vinegar. Still, I smoked it after infusing it into passion flower. No activity.... I'm going to try again but I'm going to more carefully ID the phalaris. And I'm buying fumeric acid online.