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LibertyforAll
#21 Posted : 6/13/2013 4:17:36 AM

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I'm fixin to put my opinion where it doesn't really need to go again.
Anyways, animals, especially ones as primitive as toads, don't have the mental power to understand their current situation. His toad knows nothing of rivers and other toads' lives.
Most importantly, the beast doesn't have complex emotions. It isn't sad that it lives where it does; it just lives there. It doesn't sit around saying man, I wish I lived out there and made love to those lady toads.
No, it sits there and thinks oh hey, cricket time again.
If a lady toad was thrown at him he'd think oh hey, baby toading time.

People give animals way more credit than they deserve these days.
WITH that said, I do believe we're all spiritually connected, however I also believe the plants and animals present here are present with reason.
The reason may be giving us the gift of 5-MeO-DMT, or it may be giving us food, or cleaning the side of the road of dead raccoons.
I don't know our reason for being here, I'm trying to find it, and OP may be as well.
I believe the toad is here to help him, and us, find that reason.
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#22 Posted : 6/13/2013 8:53:16 AM

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LibertyforAll wrote:
I'm fixin to put my opinion where it doesn't really need to go again.
Anyways, animals, especially ones as primitive as toads, don't have the mental power to understand their current situation. His toad knows nothing of rivers and other toads' lives.
Most importantly, the beast doesn't have complex emotions. It isn't sad that it lives where it does; it just lives there. It doesn't sit around saying man, I wish I lived out there and made love to those lady toads.
No, it sits there and thinks oh hey, cricket time again.
If a lady toad was thrown at him he'd think oh hey, baby toading time.

People give animals way more credit than they deserve these days.
WITH that said, I do believe we're all spiritually connected, however I also believe the plants and animals present here are present with reason.
The reason may be giving us the gift of 5-MeO-DMT, or it may be giving us food, or cleaning the side of the road of dead raccoons.
I don't know our reason for being here, I'm trying to find it, and OP may be as well.
I believe the toad is here to help him, and us, find that reason.





LibertyforAll except for toads and other stupid animalsConfused
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#23 Posted : 6/13/2013 10:41:34 AM

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LibertyforAll wrote:

Anyways, animals, especially ones as primitive as toads, don't have the mental power to understand their current situation. His toad knows nothing of rivers and other toads' lives.
Most importantly, the beast doesn't have complex emotions


LibertyforAll wrote:
People give animals way more credit than they deserve these days.



i only have one question , isn't it ironic your username is Libertyforall ?
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#24 Posted : 6/13/2013 11:25:20 AM
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..people are animals..

but, hang on..

doesn't this toad have a lot more of that profound-trip-to-the-light compound in it than in you libertyforall..?

 
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#25 Posted : 6/13/2013 1:22:17 PM

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nen888 wrote:
..people are animals..

exactly.
people give people too much credit Very happy
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#26 Posted : 6/13/2013 1:27:15 PM

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LibertyforAll wrote:
People give animals way more credit than they deserve these days.


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3rdI
#27 Posted : 6/13/2013 1:30:07 PM

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quick lick 'em
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#28 Posted : 6/13/2013 3:49:17 PM

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3rdI - the last time I started licking random people in an attempt to get high, it didn't go over well. With anyone, really. Razz
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#29 Posted : 6/13/2013 3:52:59 PM

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you should have tied them to 4 stakes and poked them with a stick before you licked them, it goes down better that way.
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LibertyforAll
#30 Posted : 6/13/2013 4:38:27 PM

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I don't believe animals deserve freedom from government, ie liberty, that doesn't even make sense.

Whatever, I again have the unpopular opinion.
Everyone on this website shares that with me at least, we're all in the minority with our opinion on psychoactive usage. Laughing Well, to avoid speaking in an absolute, mostly all.
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Lotusmind
#31 Posted : 6/18/2013 4:32:11 PM
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Thanks for all the replies folks! Sorry if my original grammar wasn't up to par! I have not yet milked Terrance the Toad, but soon I will. I have done plenty of research on dosage and what to expect. I feel that I am ready. The backstory on the Toad is this. He was a friends pet and I took him because he wasn't getting the love he needed. And by love I mean crickets and mealworms...he has a great enclosure, eats well, and gets time outdoors. I know that still sounds like prison but it's the reality of the situation. Freeing him would lead to his death as he does not hibernate in captivity. Thanks again for all the talk and I will report back.
 
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#32 Posted : 6/18/2013 4:54:00 PM

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"I don't believe animals deserve freedom from government, ie liberty, that doesn't even make sense."

Cant really say there is much there that I can respect, but to each their own.
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#33 Posted : 6/18/2013 9:04:40 PM

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Has Lotusmind really got a toad or is he just showing his knowledge of one source of this substance. I thought these toads were rare specimens. Or has Walmart got them on a "special". Some posts seem a bit "uppity". Lotusmind....are you a keeper and milker of 5 Meo DMT toads? If you are, I say lick it good and lick it long, and report back. If you are not, I say proceed with caution, and report back. Big grin

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#34 Posted : 6/18/2013 9:45:45 PM

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Let's address first and foremost toad licking; this doesn't really happen, and if it does it's silly people misinformed by this ubiquitous rumor. Licking the toad venom would not yield psychoactive effects, would be very unpleasant tasting, and likely might have negative side effects due to other compounds in the venom. I can't really speak to that I don't know what other compounds it may contain apart from 5-MEO-DMT and bufotenine. The way to utilize the venom is to smoke it.

The venom contains up to 15% 5-MEO-DMT and 3% bufotenine. James Oroc describes it in Tryptamine Palace as smoother and more organic experience than synthetic 5-MEO-DMT but still quite capable of providing the true entheogenic godhead experience.

Turkey Red does indeed contain 5-MEO-DMT and it is documented in many other plant sources. Plant based extraction is most assuredly preferred for ethical sourcing of 5-MEO-DMT for those who desire to to do any sustained work with it.

Toad medicine certainly is interesting and intriguing and I would jump on the chance to try it for the novelty factor alone. If I ever came across a wild frog I would not hesitate to respectfully harvest it's special gift. I don't endorse buying or trapping them to keep as a pet as a source of 5-MEO-DMT, but if you already have a toad like the OP or stumble across one in the wild, I say go for it.
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Lotusmind
#35 Posted : 6/19/2013 3:24:21 PM
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i will post a picture and or video of Terrance so everyone knows i aint bullshittin!!!!
 
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#36 Posted : 6/19/2013 3:25:42 PM
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I would like to add that i am not gonna Lick it. I'm gonna milk the glands, let it dry and then smoke it! will report soon
 
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#37 Posted : 6/19/2013 4:10:59 PM

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cyb wrote:

Have you seen what they do to those poor creatures in the tribes?? Its pretty sick and barbaric...Crying or very sad

Now put the frog down and back away.... Stop

^^

Yes, listen to cyb "Milking a toad" as you put it is extremely stressful to the animal no matter how gently you think you're doing it, this is its defense mechanism you are toying with, imagine someone squeezing your adrenaline gland, and putting you into that stress level I could imagine at least it would be a similar experience for the toad.
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#38 Posted : 6/19/2013 10:49:17 PM

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Now my question: has anyone on here actually milked prepared and smoked toad venom? sounds most interesting to me
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LibertyforAll
#39 Posted : 6/20/2013 5:46:04 AM

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I do not advocate or condone the licking or squeezing of toads Cool
But with that said, and this not intended to be argumentative, I'd like to point out that dogs have their glands, though not defense-glands, squeezed to remove excessive fluid, and if viewed from this perspective, milking the toad might even be good for the little guy, though admittedly probably unpleasant for a minute or two. I have no veterinary basis for that, though.
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#40 Posted : 6/23/2013 9:38:53 PM

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Lotusmind wrote:
I would like to add that i am not gonna Lick it. I'm gonna milk the glands, let it dry and then smoke it! will report soon


Good for you brother, looking forward to reading it Not so sure though that venom extracted from captive Bufos will be as potent as wild source animals. I've experimented lately with a good batch of the 5-MeO containing Virola theiodora resin, and found it a wonderful substance( albeit on a magnitude weaker than vaporised toad venom).
That might be an option for you if "Terrence" gets tired!

This reccuring moralizing over the " Poor Toads in capivity" is quite frankly silly and getting long in the tooth. Why not take the topic over to a Terrarium and Reptile enthusiasts forum to get some real objective viewpoints on the subject?


 
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