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How often do you lucid dream? Options
 
Jellyfox
#21 Posted : 6/5/2013 6:40:42 AM

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Psy,
From my experience's, you're own actions and thoughts will do much more to help you in your dreams than plants.
That being said there are some options if you want some support from the plants. Silene Capensis and Calea Zaetechai are the 2 well known options. i've used whole capensis and the froth from capensis before and it seemed to enhance my dreams, but it could have been placebo.

Like i said, your own actions will help you control your dreams better than plants. Also start off slow, don't be expecting to be flying around and creating cities right away. Any slight awareness of your dream is a great achievement.
 

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#22 Posted : 6/5/2013 7:23:46 AM

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Well, Psych 528,

Calea and Silene both work for me, and people get good effects from Galantamine... but like Jelly said, it is the work you put in that bears the greatest fruit. Supplements can add vividness if your dreams are washed out or lackluster (some people even dream in B&W), and they often increase recall (which can be quite usefull). But to achieve lucidity, you need to either A) learn a good WILDing technique and get that to work or B) do a lot of "reality checks" throughout the day and then set your intention to have and remember a lucid dream before passing out.

Based on your user name, I am gonna go ahead and assume you are familiar with brainwaves and solfeggio tones. You can play theta waves while you sleep and while you head off to sleep, to increase the amount of time you spend in REM. It is not always effective, but it can help a bit IMO.

WILDing can be difficult to master, but it is easy enough to get in the habit of doing the reality checks, and they will pay off eventually. Stick with it, buy a dream notebook, and you will achieve. Once you get to some lucidity, however, that is when the real training begins. It is a long and immensely rewarding journey. When you factor in the often mind boggling time dilation of dreaming, you can wind up substantially increasing your subjective age in terms of quantity of life experience. This alone makes it an endeavor worth investing in. Stay in good health, and you may live to 100... become a dreamer and you will probably live well over 1000 years.

Be well,
HF
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Jellyfox
#23 Posted : 6/5/2013 10:18:27 AM

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Yes i should add that Alpha frequency Binaural beats have worked surprisingly well in enhancing my dreams and abilities.
 
Herbaldreams
#24 Posted : 6/7/2013 1:30:44 PM

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Drinking small amounts of ayahuasca before I go to sleep seems to help prolong my dreams and make them easier to remember. Plus it make for a smooth transition from being awake to entering the dreamworlds.
 
greencamel
#25 Posted : 6/7/2013 7:55:25 PM

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I used to lucid dream every single night but i no longer do as it became a problem, i became more invested in lucid dreaming than 'reality' I used to prep by watching inception to get in the mindset

anyways if you're REALLY interested in it, heres some tips

DXM before bed (dont over do it)
Melatonin (sleep aid, take one or two, you dont want to offset your body's sleep cycle)
eating lots of cheese before bed (something about the fungus)
setting alarms for music that you can hear but isn't so loud, that way you'll hear it in the dream and become semi conscious
flip the light switch, if your dreaming it wont change
try to remember what happened before you are where you are
try to feel the physical weight of objects
look for identifying marks on yourself or others, ie birthmarks, scars, burns, tattoos, etc
does it seem like the world goes on without you or is it centered around yourself? ie is anyone else talking? can you hear them?
lack of emotion, this might change from person to person but generally when im not aware of my dreams characters have very little variety of emotions (one set mood for the dream)
also try to remember your real life schedule, ie work, school, what have you, then try to remember why your not there, ask someone
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Jellyfox
#26 Posted : 6/8/2013 3:11:37 PM

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Sigh, Green camel you had to bring up inception...... hahaha. while it is a semi interesting movie, it is so hollywood that it becomes quite ridiculous and completely unrealistic.

I really don't think that watching that movie is going to help anyone have more lucid dreams, if anything I think 2 hours of television is probly going to dull your dreams.

Also the reason I don't appreciate that movie is because most all of the concepts in that film were taken from Carlos Castenadas books and they did a very poor job of making a movie with such a cool concept.

I recommend that you check out some of Carlos Castenadas books, but take it with a grain of salt because he never really clarifies what a dream is and when he is dreaming or not.
 
Jellyfox
#27 Posted : 6/8/2013 10:41:17 PM

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synchronoise, i have had VERY similiar experiences.
 
Jellyfox
#28 Posted : 6/9/2013 12:16:02 AM

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for sure man look forward to seeing you.

Ive had so many dreams where i fall in love with a beautiful girl who is perfect and i feel this amazing connection with. Theres 4 completely different looking girls who iv'e met in the dream world on multiple occasions. All of a sudden i'm walking around and then one of them would pop up. I can recognize them all individually and look them in the eyes in my dream! Its always love too, i usually am not having sex with them but just cuddling and feeling and intimate kissing. I always feel this deep connection to each one of them. Dreams are so much fun, and everybody knows Fun Rules.

I also have a cool reoccurring dreamplace I go to which i call the staircase Smile.
Its this Huge staircase that seems to go on and on forever but I'm always at the top of the staircase staring down as it seems to go down forever into nothingness. At the top tho theres a Huge Mansion with statues and lushious garden with illuminated water fountains. Sometimes theres people there at the top and sometimes its just me. Maybe I own that mansion? i haven't even thought of that hahahaha.

I think it would be great if we all started posting about our dreams as a way of documenting and helping us keep track our of wildest dreams. We also have a lot to learn from each other by analyzing one anothers dreams too.

One of the things that I'm really interested in is these Reoccurring dreams, because I have many places and people that I recognize in the dream world just as i would recognize different places and people in this world.
 
Jellyfox
#29 Posted : 6/9/2013 11:20:43 AM

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man that rave house sounds awesome! wish I coulda raged it!

Ever have those dreams were you blast off and start going higher and higher till your in outer space and looking at the planets? then you start falling down and your like O shit O shit this is gonna hurt! but you land and theres no pain or anything. And before you can think about it you start going up again hahaha.
 
dandelion
#30 Posted : 6/9/2013 12:21:22 PM

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After reading mutch in this topic i have realised that my way of achieving lucid dreaming is a bit off, thought not nesecarily better or worse then urs.
I have practiced it quite a bit and my humble opinion is next, 1. u can use supliments or some binaural frequencies to help you, but to achive full control over my mind in sleep i took none. The best way it worked for me is: 1.st meditation; i find it as expertise in making your thoughts disapear, it helps alot for further steps i do, i dont like lucid dreaming when it happens by itself and i dont like when its at eavning, i like controling every bit of me that i can. I find it best way to expirience them as soon as you can when you wake up in the morning. When you are not tired or sleepy, and you dont drag the entire day experience in your mind, if you can control your mind and body (this is where meditation comes as golden crown)you can easily fool your body to fall asleep while you can roam in your dreams fully aware.
I replied just becouse there are lot of shit topics on the internet about lucid dreaming, and how to achieve mostly in somillar way to ... increase your dream recall, focus your intent, see yourself become lucid etc. i do not claim theese are wrong but im my opinion mastering your mind to master the body can vastly improve vividness, lenght, and most important freedom in your own dreams.
( we all have some stuff we wanted to expirience in some time of our lives, didnt get a chance so we can at least dream about them. p.s jumping straight to action could wake you up due to adrenalin your body makes if you hump too fast Twisted Evil .

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DamiasOfEgypt
#31 Posted : 6/9/2013 7:48:01 PM

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I lucid dream about every Saturday, but i'm referring to the ones i remember as i also believe that everyone has them every night. They just can't recall them. The reason that I believe it's every Saturday is because on Saturday i can sleep as long as I want to. During the regular weekday and on Sunday I have specific time to go to sleep and wake up for my events scheduled that day. But on Saturday my body breaks the cycle meaning it extends the last round of REM sleep. But my mind also being use to waking itself up right before the alarm is partially active. I become aware that I am both awake and asleep. Strangely enough I don't control anything but my character. The environment and characters I meet are compleatly up to the story line of the dream. And my dreams often happen like a movie that has been edited playing out meaning that I understand it and it makes sense when it happens. Unfortunately that means my nightmares play out perfectly to. Meaning not only is my mind throwing the things I fear the most at me. It makes it into my own personal horror story. And unlike my lucid dream that i can wake up from anytime. I can't leave a nightmare until the end of the story. Sad
 
Jellyfox
#32 Posted : 6/10/2013 7:19:14 PM

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anyone else got some New or Old amazing dreamtime stories to share?
 
SKA
#33 Posted : 6/10/2013 8:01:01 PM
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There was a period in my life when I had lots of spontaneous lucid dreamds, but similair to greencamel, this became a problem for me. After a while I didn't have any lucid dreams anymore and a bit later on my dream recall seemed to vanish almost completely. And my dreamrecall has remained abominal since then. Many years of 0 to at best short fragments of dream recall. This horribly long dry spell has lasted 4 + years.

Only now is my dream recall slowly improving again, but it's still not great.
I'm trying to pin down why I had so many lucid, memorable dreams all those years ago and why
exactly my lucid luck ran out so to speak.

The usual suspect, Cannabis, off course crossed my mind as the culprit, but thinking back I
remember I already smoked Cannabis during the period I had all these amazing lucid & vivid dreams.
So that can't reasonably be it. However life from that period onwards became increasingly more
complicated & stressfull ( I got my first love & heartbreak, moved out on my own, develloped some financial problems, I'm starting to understand better and better the global Tyranny we call "politics"...etc)

I'm guessing all these new, extra worries and disheartening realisations about the world around me have preoccupied my mind too much too allow Lucidity or even decent Dream Recall. But I'm not sure it's 100% of the barrier.

I'm just hopelessly trying to pin down what stopped my Lucid dreaming & dream recall, but I really can't find it.
I really miss those magically vivid & lucid dreams I had. I feel like having found the road to paradise and then forgetting it again. If that makes any sense.
 
Jellyfox
#34 Posted : 6/10/2013 9:37:34 PM

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try writing a dream journal ska
 
Herbaldreams
#35 Posted : 6/11/2013 2:23:57 AM

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Not smoking as much cannabis definently seems to make it easier for me to recall my dreams.

The whole reoccurring dreamscape thing is pretty interesting to me. There are a couple different places I seem to end up regularly when dreaming. Several of them are out in the woods on trails. Once I started exploring the boundaries of one after I realized I was dreaming and I wandered into a landscape I'd been in in a previous dream. Made me curious if I could map it out if I remembered my dreams often enough. Or even if there is a place in this reality with those same landscapes.

In of the more interesting dreams I've had recently I was at my dads house. I keep several of my plants and nearly all of my cacti at his house (I keep making cuttings and I only have so much room where I live). Well I'm there but I keep having this feeling I'm being watched. I keep noticing movement in the back ground something darting from behind one tree to behind another. Eventually I walk onto his back porch where I keep several chacruna plants and there's a person made entirely out of plants. It stands there and looks at me for a second then hops off the side of the porch then runs in zig zags across the yard in the other direction. I walk down the stairs to see where it ran off to. All the while still feeling like I'm being watched. Then I notice a dark skinned man standing behind a bush. So I ask him who are you? He just stairs back at me and says ask your father. Then I woke up.

As soon as I woke up I picked up the phone and called my dad. He said he couldn't think of who might be right off hand. I'll have to ask him next time I talk to him to see if he put any more thought into it.

Another interesting aspect of this dream is that while walking through his yard looking for this thing that was always just out of sight I walked past several cacti that were planted in the ground in different locations. All of the cacti I currently have at his house are still in pots. The ones in the dream where a foot or two taller than the ones I currently have and appeared to be thriving. I'm thinking maybe I was being shown where to plant them. Who knows? I definently plan on trying to plant some in those locations now.
 
benzyme
#36 Posted : 6/11/2013 2:37:06 AM

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not often.
do I care? not really.
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#37 Posted : 6/11/2013 3:34:43 AM

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I used to have lucid dreams every night, then it diminished and I had them more sporadically, but now they are coming back. Cannabis definitely doesn't help. Mid-day siestas or waking up for taking a piss and thinking about dreams before falling asleep (or WILD) are some of the ways that help increasing these lucid dreams. Also doing the checks like trying to make sense temporally, remember where I came from, what happened before the moment, because in a dream I usually can't make sense of weekdays, month, what happened the day before etc.

I very much agree with HF that there are different levels of lucidity. At first my lucid dreams began as a self-defense mechanism against nightmares, I would just force-open my eyes and wake up. Then I realized if they are my dreams, then I can control. So this took many tries, and there are levels of awareness and control.

I have tested many lucid dreaming techniques. Sex was one of the interesting things to try, but I continued exploring the dream world in several other ways like tripping during dreams, having 360degrees vision, breathing underwater, flying (by the way, my technique for flying is to fly like superman imagining a force under the feet, instead of moving the arms swiming, which fails more often than not), teletransportation (like walking through mirror and coming out elsewhere), learning songs or body movements during dream which maintain during waking life, experiencing what its like to become an animal, etc.

Once I asked a character in my dream 'How does it feel to be a character in my dream?', and the character answered 'But it is you who is a character in my dream!' . That was memorable Very happy

Lately, inspired by something HF said sometime ago, i've been trying to find some kind of guardian or enlightened being or similar, to try to see if dreams can help me solve some of the riddles of existance.
 
Jellyfox
#38 Posted : 6/11/2013 4:32:14 AM

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benzyme wrote:
not often.
do I care? not really.


well theres your problem benzyme, you said you don't lucid dream often. I reckon you do lucid dream pretty often but you don't remember you did.

Why aren't you remembering your dreams? cuz you don't really care.
 
Jellyfox
#39 Posted : 6/11/2013 4:38:36 AM

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Herbal dreams, I am glad that you too are interested in the reoccurring dreamscapes, and thanks for sharing your experience about your dad and cacti garden. I can imagine that plant guy zigzaggin around too hahaha.

Since the OP's anwser has been well answered, I would like to ask that we start moving this thread in the direction of sharing Dream Experiences. I enjoy reading all of your guy's dreams and truly think that we can all learn a lot about ourselves from analyzing each others dreams.
 
benzyme
#40 Posted : 6/11/2013 5:13:48 AM

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Jellyfox wrote:
benzyme wrote:
not often.
do I care? not really.


well theres your problem benzene, you said you don't lucid dream often. I reckon you do lucid dream pretty often but you don't remember you did.

Why aren't you remembering your dreams? cuz you don't really care.


exactly.
dreams have little importance to me, because they don't really have any impact/relevance on how I function when I'm awake.

it's benzyme, by the way.
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