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Jox
#1 Posted : 5/31/2013 2:30:19 AM

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Danesh report,

this is written by Jox.

Borderline Personality Dissorder:

wrinkled space between the eye brows, anger spells, idealization of partner and family members, splitting: from idealization to villinisation, in split second I can be the worst person in the world, fear from the society, social meetings, fear of critique, more can be seen here

The change was tremendeous:

1. Danesh wouldn't ever go to the public beach, and he voluntarlily had initative to go.
2. he doesn't get angry.
3. facing problems, he doesn't loose control
4. he became loving and expresses spontaneously the feelings.

this is in short, if anybody wants details, please let me know.

Treatment ONE:

Here is the full report.

1. became a wolf
2. had regressions by the feel of the body: 30 years, 25 years, 15 years, up to 6 years
3. Start weeping that he didn't have the right to laugh and cry without the permit.

Treatment TWO:

1. Was laughing, and talking silly, then the plant told him that it had to take him to the age regressions so he can learn this new lesson.
2. The plant told him that it is going to use his voice to guide him.
3. It started to "teach" him how to process the emotion, to take it in, and let it out, and after 50 minutes of guiding was taken to an empty space of a cream color and told him that it is the reality of the human nature.


this is so far the report
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#2 Posted : 5/31/2013 10:39:28 AM

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Very interesting!

I seem to attract BPD people and has been VERY tempted to attempt treatment on ex girlfriends with BPD. I always opted not to since my research came up with BPD as a contraindication for psychedelics (Strassman if my memory serves me).

I do know of another BPD person successfully using psychedelics, including smoked freebase DMT. (I don't know if it made any difference for her BPD though, or if it's even a correct diagnosis as I am not close enough to be on the receiving end of the tantrums etc).

Please follow up with long term results, if BPD can be improved with ayahuasca this is HUGE.

No really effective treatment is available and ~6% of the population is first hand sufferers - making the number of people under psychological torment of those 6% incomprehensible. Making me think BPD has quite an enormous effect on humanity's overall happiness.

Much love and strength to you and anyone else having to deal with this.
 
Jox
#3 Posted : 6/3/2013 12:24:24 AM

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Hi Mandukeya,

maybe there can be a special place where the healing aspect to DMT can be reported, it seems that it is not generating much interest. And I don't know where to post it, since on BPD forums they don't support illegal treatments.

But the results are so great that I have no words to say it. I just want to mention that we are working with very high doses and I think that this is part of success.

thank you for you interest
Jox
 
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#4 Posted : 6/3/2013 12:53:11 AM

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Holy %#^% me too, I love a couple BLD people, but cant be around them. Amazing. This needs to be looked into. Thank your friend fr their courage
Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
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#5 Posted : 6/3/2013 12:53:52 AM

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Jox wrote:




I just want to mention that we are working with very high doses and I think that this is part of success.


YES
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#6 Posted : 6/3/2013 6:45:20 PM

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It's amazing... the amount of people with borderline personalities with fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. It's almost as if there were a connection there. Wut?
 
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#7 Posted : 6/4/2013 4:29:16 PM

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anyone tried consuming turmeric everyday , i have started consuming 1 teaspoon in water everyday , also it seems harmless to the body compared to pharmaceuticals out there ,

http://chronicfatigue.ab...nic-Fatigue-Syndrome.htm

illusions !, there are no illusions
there is only that which is the truth
 
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#8 Posted : 6/4/2013 5:56:30 PM
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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
It's amazing... the amount of people with borderline personalities with fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. It's almost as if there were a connection there. Wut?


I'll be damned....You're right. Uppon reading that sentence, immediately several people I know came to mind who exhibit exactly 2 or all 3 of these disorders:
BPD, Fibromyalgia & Chronic Fatigue syndrome. They all just so happen to be females.


 
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#9 Posted : 6/6/2013 4:53:38 AM

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Women and their high-powered amygdalas... Rolling eyes

THis is really common, boderlines have a tendancy to exaggerate their problems or fabricate obstacles, as well as other means of attracting pity or reinforcing self-pity. Chronic ailments such as fibro or CFS are commonly self-diagnosed, and since patients can lie (consciously or otherwise) about the symptoms without risk of being found out, doctors often diagnose them as such. Boderlines seldom invoked fibro or cfs before these things were common in media and advertising. People I know in the psych field call it "malignant ego syndrome", hehe

Other people may call these folks spiritually sensitive, but with the calibre of folk that spirituality attracts most often, well... in my experience, the truly spiritually sensitive don't feel sorry for themselves and work hard all the time for a reason.

 
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#10 Posted : 6/6/2013 4:09:25 PM

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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:

Other people may call these folks spiritually sensitive, but with the calibre of folk that spirituality attracts most often, well... in my experience, the truly spiritually sensitive don't feel sorry for themselves and work hard all the time for a reason.



well said
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#11 Posted : 6/6/2013 8:43:16 PM

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ANY kind of suffering is equally painful: whether existential, psychological, physical or "malignant ego syndrome".

Sickness as Metaphor, by Susan Zontang, an essay when society reinterprets: suffering and dying, and give it other meanings. She compares the treatment of tuberculosis, cancer and AIDS through history and literature. As any time when there is no direct cause and cure, society projects the "reasons" for the sicness. Today, for example, cancer is in New Age language, "not letting oneself just be"...

We do not have to help another human being who is in hell. We are free not even to point the direction of the way out, if we see it.

Yet if on this space of healing plants, we didn't see our/their hell, I suggest to increase your harmalas and DMT to your need to see it. It will be far more beneficial then any "brake through" or "divine" experience we may search.

When in that hell, then ask yourself:
1. who can choose the hell?
2. were we ever hell creators for ourselves and/or for the others?

...........let us heal and not blame...........



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#12 Posted : 6/7/2013 7:55:39 AM

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Please don't think I mean to belittle your situation or your efforts to heal. I'm all too familiar with mental illness, physical debilitation and the trials of healing... I'm merely pointing out that all these things go together. Emotional disorders require consistent reinforcing behavior in order to avoid breakdown; a self-destructive cycle with limited opportunity for reversal. While I know from firsthand experience that emotional injuries cause incredible physical pain and fatigue (for whatever cruel reason), I also know from experience that identifying with ideas such as fibromyalgia and CFS serve absolutely no useful purpose, and only strengthen the paradigm that "I'm a victim of "x", trapped in "y" circumstance and I'm hopelessly stuck"... and it's just that paradigm that is the chief obstacle: The inability to recognize and accept the (blatantly obvious) fact that the restrictions and antagonists we face are purely illusory (no matter how physically reinforced), and that the power to change these circumstances is at our immediate disposal. Without that recognition, we remain trapped in a cycle of identifying problems and reasons we can't address them, while making our suffering worse by obsessing over it.

Pain is part of life, suffering is optional.
 
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#13 Posted : 6/7/2013 4:31:09 PM

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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:


Pain is part of life, suffering is optional.


Is that an original phrase or a quote? Very perceptive, true and obvious to the point of being easily overlooked. I like it. Smile

Thanks for a little bright spot in my day!

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#14 Posted : 6/7/2013 5:05:38 PM

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Quote:
Pain is part of life, suffering is optional.


Buddhist saying isn't it?

Optional suffering is difficult to master, especially when hammer meets thumb
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#15 Posted : 6/7/2013 7:23:44 PM

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It's most definitely not original, I just find it to be one of the most nifty things ever said.

There's a lot to be said for looking life straight in the face and facing it like you've got a pair... so long as you've got a pair.
 
 
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