I forgot about this effect. When I used to take it, it made me feel VERY GOOD upon waking up the next day. Nice! Glad you got something out of it!

You are probably right I think the literature I found about it being a carcinogen was from a study that used very high doses in rats. I saw that and figured it wasn't worth using as an aya analogue coupled with the fact that the content of harmalas was also pretty low by weight.

Well folks, it seems that tribulus is even more interesting than we previously thought. Apparently, the old throny caltrops actually do contain Harmaline. (not just harman and norharman) Thus, the idea that they have little or no MAO A inhibiting ability is seriously called into question. Of course, the ratios of harmalas might still mean that the MAO B activity is greater, or that it would take a large dose of this stuff to be useful as an ayahuasca analogue.

Here is an interesting article I stumbled upon that collects the various divergent claims about the plant in one location. http://www.vitamin-resou...les/article.cfm?aid=1078

While I don't know anyone personally who has managed to orally activate DMT with tribulus alone... I do know a bunch who have added tribulus to their brews to good effect. It is rather nice and very much like rue when taken alone. Even with relatively low doses, it gives me noticeable effects and clear harmala activity. My stash of tribulus might be concentrated or extra strong as it was a pre-powdered bulk "for body builders and atheletes" thing.

I don't doubt that there is some steroid type action involved here. It has potent viagra type effects the morning after.

But, at least my batch of this stuff is definitely harmala rich. And, I can say with surety that even 4 years or more after buying the stuff (and not doing anything to store it but keep it in a plastic screw top jar in a cupboard) it hasn't lost any potency. The powder has even carmelized into a single block (hard as a fricking rock) to the point where I have to saw off pieces to melt into some hot water or suck on...

Anyway, maybe at some point I will feel like testing the stuff by itself with some light and can report once and for all whether this is something to be considered doable or not.

I still have a kilo of this from over a year ago, I shall assay tonight whilst re-reading this thread which appears to have grown a little since then.

I'm becoming interested in this particular botanical again, and was wondering if anyone has taken the fresh fruits as opposed to dried? They are everywhere around here and I am able to harvest them fresh, but am unsure if I should be drying them first.

Also House, are you measuring out two tablespoons of powder or whole fruits and then crushing them?

Another thing was that I read that there have been cases of collapsed lung from eating the whole fruits, I am wondering if this is from accidentally inhaling the thorny seed or is it an actual side effect of some component in them?