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Redguard
#41 Posted : 5/30/2013 1:59:04 AM
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hug46 wrote:
Redguard wrote:
So i may have a crazy tolerance to drugs, but shit man psychedelics will always send me to the moon.

Smoking DMT on alcohol may give way to visions of hell, but open your heart to this darkness and watch the visions of hell turn into the gates of heaven.


Would you say that you are, or have been, an alcoholic?



That all depends on what one would consider being an alcoholic is. Everyone has certain levels of tolerance when it comes to drugs. The more they take a drug, the more their tolerance to becomming addicted to it breaks down. Understand that I'm only speaking about some of the harder drugs out there. That's why some people can go on binge drinking for years and not turn into alcoholics. For some people they get one summer of love and they are f'd (Edited by Moderator, Please refrain from cursing) for life. So in my opinion i am not an alcoholic. I've been on a diet for a long time and i can't even drink a whole lot even if i wanted too.

“I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long …arousing and persuading and reproaching…You will not easily find another like me.”-- Socrates
 

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hug46
#42 Posted : 5/30/2013 2:33:06 AM

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Redguard wrote:

That all depends on what one would consider being an alcoholic is.


I think i would consider an alcoholic as someone who needs to drink everyday. I am not sure that i would base it on tolerance. Some people just need a quick stiffener to face the world or perhaps make it more interesting. I know atleast one alcoholic that drinks everyday and he has no tolerance...2 beers and he is all over the shop talking random nonsense ( nonsense IMO, i am sure it makes complete sense to him!). Two of my best mates have been alcoholics. One dead before he reached 30. My dad was an alcoholic for 40 years and still alive at 82. He is dry but medicated.
I understand the negative views of alcohol but i see it as just another consciousness altering tool and it does have it"s uses.
 
Redguard
#43 Posted : 5/30/2013 2:54:53 AM
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hug46 wrote:
Redguard wrote:

That all depends on what one would consider being an alcoholic is.


I think i would consider an alcoholic as someone who needs to drink everyday. I am not sure that i would base it on tolerance. Some people just need a quick stiffener to face the world or perhaps make it more interesting. I know atleast one alcoholic that drinks everyday and he has no tolerance...2 beers and he is all over the shop talking random nonsense ( nonsense IMO, i am sure it makes complete sense to him!). Two of my best mates have been alcoholics. One dead before he reached 30. My dad was an alcoholic for 40 years and still alive at 82. He is dry but medicated.
I understand the negative views of alcohol but i see it as just another consciousness altering tool and it does have it"s uses.


In this aspect what i meant by the word tolerance is someone's ability to not get addicted to a drug. I'm sorry about your friend, not everyone is well suited to deal with temptation. One of the reasons i stopped partying so much is because i was seeing what it was doing to my friends and wanted to offer them a way out out of their lifestyle.
“I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long …arousing and persuading and reproaching…You will not easily find another like me.”-- Socrates
 
hug46
#44 Posted : 5/30/2013 3:11:56 AM

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I'm sorry about your friend, not everyone is well suited to deal with temptation.

Thankyou for that comment, he certainly was a sucker for temptation - any substance (bless him).
As far as physical tolerance goes for addiction i guess the problem i have is that people get mentally addicted and sometimes need a crutch. They do a very good job of living in denial.
At the moment i am drinking a nice glass of red wine...cheers and good health Smile
 
arcanum
#45 Posted : 6/1/2013 7:16:54 PM

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Drinking copious amounts of alchohol before doing DMT isn't ideal for me. I find the experience itself isn't really impaired per se,( visually) but the entities I invariably encounter on nearly every single travel seem to express distaste over alchohol in my bloodstream, and pissed off entities don't make for an easy trip. What's interesting is that despite having the odd foray with DMT while being under the influence, I've always emerged clear headed and sober. On balance though, I agree that DMT and alc. are not ideal partners.

However it's with reason the most popular drug on the planet, absolutely "unbannable". Great for relaxing, partying and even ( in moderation) preserving your health and extending your lifespan. I don't think it deserves the type of condemnations that are dotted throughout this thread. And daily drinking hardly constitutes " Alcoholism"


Goldberg DM, Soleas GJ, Levesque M
Department of Laboratory Medicine and Pathobiology,
University of Toronto,
Ontario, Canada.
david.goldberg@utoronto.ca
Clin Biochem 1999 Oct; 32(7):505-18

Abstract

OBJECTIVES: The regular consumption of alcohol in moderate amounts (defined in North America as up to 2 drinks per day for men and 1 drink per day for females) has been recognized in the last decade as a negative risk factor for atherosclerosis and its clinical sequelae: coronary heart disease (CHD), ischemic stroke, and peripheral vascular disease. Mortality and morbidity attributable to CHD are 40-60% lower in moderate drinkers than among abstainers. Among the mechanisms accounting for these reductions, increased circulating concentrations of HDL-cholesterol and inhibition of blood coagulation appear to be paramount. Additional benefits are, in certain beverages, conferred by the presence of constituents other than alcohol (e.g., flavonoids and hydroxystilbenes), which prevent oxidative damage, free radical formation, and elements of the inflammatory response. CONCLUSIONS: A number of other diseases appear to be beneficially modulated by moderate alcohol consumption based on epidemiologic surveys and, in some instances, experimental evidence. These include duodenal ulcer, gallstones, enteric infections, rheumatoid arthritis, osteoporosis, and diabetes mellitus (type II). Compared with abstainers, moderate drinkers exhibit improved mental status characterized by decreased stress and depression, lower absenteeism from work, and decreased incidence of dementia (including Alzheimer's disease). Although limits of safe drinking have been conservatively defined, it is regrettable that political considerations are hampering the clinical application of this knowledge and its dissemination to the lay public.



 
Artemis
#46 Posted : 8/3/2016 2:39:08 PM

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The last few times I have traveled with my brother, it was after quite a few IPAs. We have a stronger tolerance for alcohol from drinking stronger beer so we were not by any means over the top drunk, but we certainly weren't sober either. Him and I have the tendency to discuss very far out topics when drinking together like multiverse theory, God, quantum physics, etc... For some reason, these trips with him after drinking have been some of the most intense in a good way. Granted, I took care to set the space with candles, incense, and positive low volume music, but it did not seem that the alcohol had any negative effect aside from just not being able to remember as much of the trip. In short, I think it depends on your tolerance to alcohol, who you're with, and the set and setting you create. Love and peace!
 
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