We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
Smoking when sad Options
 
Elpo
#1 Posted : 5/29/2013 7:45:38 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 628
Joined: 12-Jan-2010
Last visit: 28-Feb-2019
Does anyone smoke dmt when feeling sad? In what way, if any, does this affect your experience?

"It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
 

Explore our global analysis service for precise testing of your extracts and other substances.
 
universecannon
#2 Posted : 5/29/2013 7:58:04 PM



Moderator | Skills: harmalas, melatonin, trip advice, lucid dreaming

Posts: 5257
Joined: 29-Jul-2009
Last visit: 24-Aug-2024
Location: 🌊
Its too complicated to generalize much about this sort of thing IMO. It could go either way since countless factors come into play.. I've had it help me a LOT in the past, but I wasn't just using it passively as a cure for my sadness. I was using it as a tool to help me help myself get to the heart of the problem/emotion and transform/understand it. Other times, i didn't have such luck

If this is what you decide to do, just be cautious and gentle with yourself. A good way i've found for this kind of work is to just smoke low or medium doses of changa during yoga, meditation, or contemplation. It can be very recalibrating and healing..for me its often like a 180. Or just jump right into the aether if that's how you feel. I would go with the flow, but be mindful

The short duration of changa also helps avoid the turmoil or snowball affect that can ensue when taking a longer lasting psychedelic in a sad state of mind



<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
hug46
#3 Posted : 5/29/2013 8:22:07 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 1856
Joined: 07-Sep-2012
Last visit: 12-Jan-2022
Yes i have done it when sad. The only way it has affected my experience is that i get less pre-flight anxiety. I just think sod it and get on with it.
The last time i did it while sad i was outside and there was a pinkish aura everywhere, which i took to be comforting. I find the contemplative afterglow very therapeutic and for a few days afterwards i feel less sad.
This has been with doses no greater than 20mg and each time i go in expecting nothing.
 
Changafarian
#4 Posted : 5/29/2013 10:53:06 PM

((((((O))))))


Posts: 67
Joined: 14-Mar-2013
Last visit: 02-Oct-2016
Location: Adrift in the ocean
Dmt Has a great afterglow and always leaves a mark of happiness/hope/contentness afterwords but i will agree at keeping it at low dose further its a pretty cool idea to me
The lives of all they occupy their eyes in dismal gloom the all-piercing,dead oculi - mirrors of our doom Oblivious to the trespass as you gaze into the black the demon of surveillance insultingly staring back Into you,they own your every secret, your life is in their files the grains of your every waking second sifted through and scrutinized,they know your every right. They know your every wrong,each put in their due compartment - sins where sins belong
 
changalvia
#5 Posted : 5/29/2013 11:03:06 PM

eat your jungle oats


Posts: 387
Joined: 22-Mar-2012
Last visit: 20-Jun-2019
Location: "nowhere" exists
Its not guaranteed to make you feel any specific way.

Just as you can be in a good mood and blast off to find yourself depressed, you can find yourself blasting off in a bad mood to come back refreshed... or even worse.

Its up to you directly, no matter how indirectly it seems

Sometimes i would purposefully smoke Salvia when angry / depressed or agitated.

that for me works.

And then I found out it actually has something to do with resetting certain brain stuff for lack of scientific terms

Just a quick search, you may or may not find this interesting:

http://entheogen-network...opic.php?f=8&t=13406
With every great plan comes the pleasure of patience. Take a rest, and grab a suckle off the teat of life!
 
null24
#6 Posted : 5/30/2013 1:32:44 AM

DMT-Nexus member

Welcoming committeeModerator

Posts: 3968
Joined: 21-Jul-2012
Last visit: 15-Feb-2024
In terms of effects, what are y'all referring to as low doses? At just above threshold, dmt gives me a horrible anxiety,ugh,i hate it, and if I'm in a bad mid, amplifies it considerably, for writ quite awhile after i dose.
Oh,i don't even like thinking about that feeling. Shudders.
Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
*γνῶθι σεαυτόν*
 
hug46
#7 Posted : 5/30/2013 2:04:59 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 1856
Joined: 07-Sep-2012
Last visit: 12-Jan-2022
changalvia wrote:

Its not guaranteed to make you feel any specific way.
Its up to you directly, no matter how indirectly it seems


Agreed, and the fact that i have done this on occasion is not a recomendation to anyone else. I have done it because at the time it felt like the right thing to do and so far i have had positive results.
Null , as far as effects go - minor CEV doses upto reasonably intense OEVs. If you are shuddering at the idea i"d give it a miss. Or if you are into it, but a little worried, go up in 5mg doses.
 
changalvia
#8 Posted : 5/30/2013 6:28:15 AM

eat your jungle oats


Posts: 387
Joined: 22-Mar-2012
Last visit: 20-Jun-2019
Location: "nowhere" exists
Yea. If you have smoked spice before I wouldn't go any lower than 25mg at once, you need to choose where you wanna be. Don't try be 2 places at once, if its not meant to be you will just have minimal effects which can be quite odd

Smoke salvia from a small pipe until you are fully dissociated

Go big or go home!
With every great plan comes the pleasure of patience. Take a rest, and grab a suckle off the teat of life!
 
Apoc
#9 Posted : 5/30/2013 7:28:28 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 1369
Joined: 22-Jan-2010
Last visit: 07-Mar-2014
The general rule is that dmt will probably intensity, or even perhaps compound beyond comprehension, whatever feelings you may be having, but that is not always the case. There have been times when I have been feeling sad, and the spice revealed something surprisingly good, and then I felt better. Or there have been times when I thought I felt really good, and was expecting a a good trip, but it brought me down and left me thinking, "damn why did I do that?". But that is usually not the case.

There have been times when I smoked spice when I was feeling really bad, and I experienced being murdered over and over again, replaying scenes in my head of people I have seen murdered (on the internet), and thought I was the person being murdered. There's a video on the net of a guy in a suit in a meeting shoots himself in the head, and all his blood pours out his nose. In the trip, I had no idea if I was that guy, or if I was someone else. I thought, "either I'm the guy who killed himself, and I'll never wake up from this, or I smoked spice and I'm disoriented". After a few minutes I was thankful to realize that I just smoked spice.

Or, I have flashback experiences from my own life except they take on a freakish, other worldly quality. One time when I was really sad about being rejected by a girl I love, I smoked spice that night, and experienced being sucked in to a black hole, and swirling all around me was her spirit laughing at me and telling me that I will never be loved, that I gave up my soul trying to court her, and she consumed it, and there is nothing left to my existence except her laughing at me and lording it over me that I am nothing.

Other times I'm not feeling very well, and the spice like resets my brain or something, and I'm like.... death? whatever. Everything is fine. My oh my this drug will cause one to experience every emotion on the map and beyond. I do notice that trips are not the same as when I first started taking it. Before the themes were almost always other worldly, but now trips often become very emotional and relate to my personal life. Maybe I should stop taking l-dopa, I don't know if the increased dopamine has a fucked up effect with psychedelics.
 
Felnik
#10 Posted : 5/30/2013 2:33:53 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 1760
Joined: 15-Apr-2008
Last visit: 06-Mar-2024
Location: in the Forest


I have done it under many kinds of moods. the best is when your already feeling good.

when in a sad mood i recommend starting with some caapi leaf to elevate your mood first.

there are no hard n fast rules from my own experience , the best thing i can say is if your in a questionable mood don't go full on . test the waters gradually feel if its going to be ok or not.
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Arthur C. Clarke


http://vimeo.com/32001208
 
Elpo
#11 Posted : 6/3/2013 9:14:48 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 628
Joined: 12-Jan-2010
Last visit: 28-Feb-2019
Thanks a lot for your responses everyone. I ended up not trying and decided to postpone. I did however try Salvia a few days later which ended up lifting my mood as I had this very powerful crazy laughing frenzy. It felt as if the laughing came from the deeperst region of my being.
"It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
 
DisEmboDied
#12 Posted : 6/3/2013 11:21:25 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 552
Joined: 08-May-2012
Last visit: 01-Nov-2024
Usually I am not sad anymore after the experience is over with. It knocks all of the negative emotions out of me. Once I am in hyperspace, what is making me sad usually becomes irrelevant. If I do think about it while I'm there, the shaman from wherever guides me an answer sometimes...lately I have been going in with intention and getting some sort of answer or response, it is the way I go to church at least once every 2 weeks or a month. Peace
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
Nathaniel
#13 Posted : 6/4/2013 5:20:13 AM

Nathaniel


Posts: 224
Joined: 29-Jul-2011
Last visit: 06-Nov-2021
Location: Floating in space
I have done this a few times and it can vary quite a bit. It can go either way, but I think I concluded that it's best to be in a content state of mind when getting in touch with the spirits. Mainly because I think it tends to create focus on whatever you're feeling/thinking about, so it might just exacerbate the situation. I like to do DMT with positivity Thumbs up
You are me and I am you, I'll always be with you...
 
Ryusaki
#14 Posted : 6/4/2013 12:35:40 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 343
Joined: 29-Jan-2012
Last visit: 15-Jul-2017
Location: everywhere
I drank Ayahuasca(analogs) several times when i was sad & depressed. The sad emotions/depressions got purged out of me via tear duct. It worked flawless every time for me.
 
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest (3)

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.024 seconds.