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LibertyforAll
#1 Posted : 5/24/2013 10:39:39 PM

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I use drugs as a crutch. But I do it in the right way.
What I believe is that there is a right and wrong way to do these things, and entheogens show this nicely.
I believe when we righteously and truthfully use a substance correctly, and for what it's really intended for, we get only the positive effects from it, not the negative ones associated with the their uses, various as they may be.
For example, mushrooms and DMT are meant to help us focus on finding God, finding our soul, exploring the heavens. However, if they're used incorrectly, they cause you to freak out, ending up in a hospital as psychotic. Both rarely do that, however.
I believe that's because the specific chemicals make up a plant's 'soul'.
Maybe it's God chose the plant's chemical makeup, or maybe it's by chance, that this happens.
You can decide that. Actually, decide if this whole thing is true or not. I'd like to read what you decide too Very happy
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rudraksha
#2 Posted : 5/24/2013 11:10:17 PM

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Yup, i think you're right, and most people around these parts are going to agree with you i'd imagine Smile. The term of crutch i think doesn't apply so well, because without a crutch, you would fall over. I believe psychs are more of a tool, and much like a tool if they're used correctly help with the job immensely, and if are used incorrectly can do the opposite or harm you.
 
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#3 Posted : 5/24/2013 11:26:37 PM

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rudraksha wrote:
Yup, i think you're right, and most people around these parts are going to agree with you i'd imagine Smile. The term of crutch i think doesn't apply so well, because without a crutch, you would fall over. I believe psychs are more of a tool, and much like a tool if they're used correctly help with the job immensely, and if are used incorrectly can do the opposite or harm you.

Ah I think you got what I was saying exactly!
I just used the word crutch because it makes what I was saying easier to understand.... It's a hard thing to put into words, I hoped I did it well, seems I did Smile
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#4 Posted : 5/24/2013 11:49:45 PM

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related bill hicks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baeT3g7udho#t=1m35
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LibertyforAll
#5 Posted : 5/24/2013 11:55:18 PM

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That's great Parshvik Laughing
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LibertyforAll
#6 Posted : 5/25/2013 12:01:07 AM

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Now the video got me thinking lol... Earliest humans threw these plants on their fires, found out smoke from it made them feel good, then a more advanced generation came along and found the one part of it works best, so kept using just that one part, became smarter yet and found it's true meaning, then a past 'even smarter' generation came and banned it, calling it cannabis etc.
Well, now an even smarter generation knows it's uses, potential and known, and wants to un-ban it.
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#7 Posted : 5/25/2013 8:57:00 AM

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LibertyforAll wrote:
I believe when we righteously and truthfully use a substance correctly, and for what it's really intended for,




Could you please link me to the list of how substances are supposed to be used?
What DMT is intended to be used for? I think I missed that link somehow.



More directly, how do you define "correct use" or "intended use". By who? For who?


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LibertyforAll
#8 Posted : 5/25/2013 1:13:00 PM

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There isn't one that I know of Cool
Maybe it's a cop-out, but I think that's something more personal than what you can put on a list for everyone
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DeDao
#9 Posted : 5/25/2013 1:20:23 PM

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I can't agree with it fully. It doesn't seem that cut and dry to me.
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
#10 Posted : 5/25/2013 3:03:15 PM
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In relation to how DMT should be used, I found the pdf read of Sands to be extremely interesting and enlightening. This has been posted on here before I think House was the one that had posted it. Just in case anyone else hasn't read.

I hope this is enjoyed as much as I enjoyed it.

Tat Tvam Asi

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** Im not sayin this read is the "tried and true" way to use an entheogen such as DMT, but I found much of his voice worthwhile.
 
LibertyforAll
#11 Posted : 5/25/2013 3:30:58 PM

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DeDao wrote:
I can't agree with it fully. It doesn't seem that cut and dry to me.

Of course not, I did make it sound more simple than it probably is for sure.
Like I said, I think "right" and "wrong" are different for everyone.
I'd like to hear more on what you think though DeDao, I really appreciate other opinions
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LibertyforAll
#12 Posted : 6/13/2013 1:45:57 AM

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I found this thread and thought it was very relevant to this idea I have; figured I'd share
https://mycotopia.net/fo...-tobbacco-entheogen.html
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