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Acacia confusa extract vs. Mimosa Hostilis extract, the differences... Options
 
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#1 Posted : 5/18/2013 5:04:05 PM

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Has anyone compared DMT from mimosa and acacia?
If so what differences did you find?
Do you prefer one to the other? etc....
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#2 Posted : 5/19/2013 4:00:41 PM

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This is relevant to my interests and I'd like to know the differences also. Anyone have experience on the two?
 
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#3 Posted : 5/19/2013 4:08:44 PM
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I have experience with mimosa compared to chaliponga. Not compared to acacia though. From this I can for sure tell you that there is a difference with Mimosa compared to other spice.

I know mimosa has another somewhat unkown alkaloid in it, yuramamine or something like that, and I believe this adds to the experience. I dont know for sure if this comes out with extractions, but all I know is every time I have smoked mimosa spice it has brought me much deeper, and much quicker, then other spice.

IME mimosa is a more intense ride, even with the same dosage as my Chali extract. The Chali seemed to hit me much slower and felt more warm and welcoming. (I think its due to the different ration of DMT, 5-Meo-DMT, NMT, and 5-meo-NMT.

Acacia confusa on the other hand I have read about containing high ratios of NMT to DMT. So this plant again will have its own feeling to its extract. I imagine acacia would be more of a slower, gradual come up as with the chaliponga extract, due to the higher percent of NMT present.
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#4 Posted : 5/19/2013 4:57:58 PM

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For me, ACRB extract has a much more funky feel than MHRB. I cant really explain tbh but I do prefer MHRB over ACRB. But ill take what I can get as it's practically impossible to acquire juerma now in the US.
 
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#5 Posted : 5/19/2013 5:00:30 PM

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Thick-Light, do you have an opinion or have u only had ACRB?
 
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#6 Posted : 5/21/2013 10:33:52 AM

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When full spectrum exracts were tested blindly I could tell them apart.
They both have characteristics I like, mimosa has dripping organic visuals
and tears apart reality in a hostile manner which is desirable at times. I want to say it's more electric, I'm not sure that's the right word but it will have to do.

Acacia is a lot more gentle and required a larger dose to break through before it was
re-xtalized. I also found the duration of the afterglow to be on average almost 20 minutes longer, which is nice if one likes to make art while tripping. a friend also said he found it to be more spiritual and introspective, raising empathy, compassion, and self awareness to overly sensitive hieghts.

When re-xtalized batches were tested blindly I could not tell the difference.

In the end it really doesn't matter they both get you there if your willing to go, but if I could only smoke one for the rest of this life it would be acacia spice.


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#7 Posted : 5/22/2013 5:43:06 PM
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Thicklight, do you think the difference is due to the larger presence of NMT in acacia confusa? I believe Mimosa does not have any NMT, correct?
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#8 Posted : 5/22/2013 5:55:57 PM

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Interesting topic. I am trying to work with Acacia, if I manage success then I will surely report back.
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#9 Posted : 5/23/2013 7:06:19 AM

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thick-light wrote:
but if I could only smoke one for the rest of this life it would be acacia spice.

I've only worked with acacia spice for a little while now, but I definitely agree.

It has a much more pleasant feel to me than mimosa. I have enjoyed chailponga and chacruna extracts as well, each with their subtle and not so subtle differences.

Acacia wins over them all.

I've been making batches of ayahuasca with acacia lately as well, and it's the best ayahuasca I've drank to date. Wonderful plant.

It's all down to personal preference, of course. As Swinjin put it, and also one of my close friends said the same thing, it can have a sort of "funky" feel to it. A strange bodyload type of feeling. It's not unpleasant, at least to me.
 
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#10 Posted : 5/23/2013 8:12:19 AM

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as others have echoed, it is qiute subjective - though I do agree that acacia spice has a more "organic" feel to the visions.. something about mimosa dmt felt much more "alien" to me
 
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Has anyone had a successful non-toxic ACRB extraction? I am looking through the Nexus for info. My cat seems to have good bark but the mess and the atmosphere...
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Has anyone had a successful non-toxic ACRB extraction? I am looking through the Nexus for info. My cat seems to have good bark but the mess and the atmosphere...


Yes food-grade drytek works with acacia (Said with experience of confusa). Meow.

Others have been very on point about the OP question, IMO.
 
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I have only tried Mimosa and I can confirm that most of the visions (if not all) either open or closed eyes feel very alien to me.

It's aggressive and sometimes gentle and very unpredictalbe, but from what I have read all DMT is like that.

I also want to add that my mimosa extracts are always golden yellow, never had white fluffy spice like most people, my MHRB comes from brazil.
 
 
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