I'm curious if this has been a constant in their lives as well.
Growing up I always felt some pull to the Indian culture. I hadn't learned about India, didn't know where it was, didn't know what it was, but just hearing the word made my ears perk up as a kid & I remember saying at a very young age that I wanted to live there.
Fast forward. Now having a glimps of understanding of the culture, my feelings are even stronger. I've also noticed that all of my dmt experiences have a very strong undertone of Indian art. Mostly patterns that occur in Mendhi (henna).
I haven't left my body yet but my dear friend experienced being shot in to the universe and meeting Divi (the Hindu goddess of the universe). This was an experience of someone who is not religious at all and had to research to figure out who it was that he had met. When he read who she was, he was floored.
Does anyone else feel this strange pull to India? Or experience similar visions while on dmt? If so, what's your opinion on why? Why the Hindu/Indian culture? I still don't believe in any one religion but how is it that theirs is so connected to my experiences?

If you haven't read either of these I HIGHLY suggest them. Two very classical indian texts. The Bhagavad Gita, and The Upanishads. I hold both of those texts close to my heart, as I find theres MANY parallels within whats written and transcendental experiences. Eloquent and beautiful. I highly suggest them. Hence my name.


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tat

Yes, I get those classic Hindu interweaving fractals as well. I, however do not feel much of a pull to India. Even with those patterns, they are intriguing but they just don't strike me the same way that say Egyptian patterns do. They just have a different energy about them. I've never met any Indian deities, however I had a similar experience of meeting a deity (Egyptian in my case) and not knowing what they were, and having to do research to look them up and validate their existence. You can read about it here.

All of it is so beyond me still. I'm so curious about it and excited by it. It's interesting that you have the pull to Egyptian culture. I know a few people who would agree with you. Do you have a specific musical artist that helps produce a more Egyptian like visuals?
As for the books Tat, I absolutely will look in to them!! My friend, I'm sure, will also love to read them so thanks for the suggestion.
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T

Aye, thanks a lot for the book references. I think i'll read them later in time. To see if they can verify my experience after it happened. So as not to taint my own thoughts beforehand. Or else it just sounds like a good read to me. I personally feel more and more drawn to mythology with each passing day.

I too have always been fascinated by the Art and Structures of Ancient Egypt. Do you think the human/animal heads we see in there art are representation of Entities or aspects of the self encountered in altered states?

When I experienced mescaline for the first time recently I finally understood the mayan artwork. It made me realize that mescal taught them basic geometry through the patterns given.

Amazing. Makes me wonder if the Egyptians had some plant similar to it.

I read an article called "Psychedelics Past, present & future" It claims that the Ancient Egyptians were using an Entheogen called the Blue Water Lily, to achieve altered states of consciousness. I'm curious if anyone here as experiences with that plant. The Greeks had the Kykeon I think

I can't be exactly sure what those therianthropes are, except to say that since they can be encountered in hyperspace, it lends an extra degree of validity to them IMO. I believe that they are aspects of the self in one layer of meaning. The wacky thing about Ancient Egypt is that they managed to layer meanings so abundantly and efficiently that I feel it would be incorrect to call those deities any one particular thing or having one particular function. They seem to exist accounting for multiple instances of interpretation depending on perspective and scope.



The Egyptian blue lotus is depicted all over the place in Ancient Egyptian artwork and culture. They believed that the universe started as a blue lotus opening in the Grand Waters. While I don't believe that the psychoactive effects of the blue lotus could exclusively account for a consciousness shift great enough to experience the Egyptian visions, I do believe that when combined with other consciousness shifting techniques such as possibly using sensory deprivation in the Great Pyramid, and other methods, that it would open the gateways to the heavens. I have this particular plant.

On one of the early occasions that I used it, I smoked some blue lotus in a joint, and then followed it with some rips of DMT out of the GVG. I ended up in this subterranean chamber with an Egyptian goddess and perhaps some other Egyptian entities that were mingling with some of the more abstract DMT entities that I tend to encounter. In retrospect however, I cannot be sure that it was the blue lotus, as I had just finished watching an episode of the Pyramid Code at the time (the one on women ironically) not to mention that the experience very well might have happened regardless of having used the blue lotus or having watched the documentary. It's really impossible to say. I am pretty convinced that the blue lotus would be incapable of generating the Egyptian visions on its own without some supplementation.



I tend not to listen to music much anymore for a variety of reasons. The last time I recall having a strong Egyptian vision while listening to music was on 12/12/12 12:12:12, and I was listening to Queen perform "Don't Stop Me Now" and "Spread Your Wings" off of their Live Killers! album. As with the blue lotus, it's really difficult to see how much the music actually influenced that particular direction that the experience ended up taking. While many might dismiss Queen as a band to listen to on DMT either for being corny, or having lyrical content (many prefer instrumentals) or whatever the reason may be, I find their intricate layering and superb voice leading within the harmonic structure to resonate well with hyperspace which to me is akin to a system founded on harmonics and harmonic principles.

egypt was likely a fertile jungle setting durring the time the sphinx and possibly pyramids were built..I think they must have used psilocybe mushrooms..and the acacia trees were sacred to them. They must have used tryptamines IMO..Soma was also a tryptamine in my opinion, well one of the plants was anyway..I think there was many soma plants that could have been used together to make a brew with many admixtures..and I agree with nen that the kykeon was likely phalaris aquatica.

I dont believe blue lotus can account for the mythology and art etc of the egyptians. Blue lotus is a euphoriant in my experience..not a visionary psychedelic. It could def be used for meditation though..

I think psilocybes and DMT produce visions far closer to the mayan iconography than mescaline does..for me anyway..and at the same both both have produced egyptian like glyphs, as well as full on visions of a past life in eqypt where I experienced a resurection ceremony.

I have always wondered why people have visions of ancient cultural Stuff on psychedelics. The artwork, patterns, places, and deities of these ancient cultures seem to occupy different
Realms of hyperspace. I often see either Mayan or Indian styles in my journeys, but its usually mixed with futuristic/ alien type stuff.

An idea I have is, Since most of these ancient peoples use some sort of psychedelics or other practices to alter there consciousness they leave an imprint of sorts on the hyperspace realms.

I started a thread a while back when I first became a member here about some of my ideas that relate to this.

If you havent seen it, you can check it out here


Sorry. Link fixed!!

these archaic archetypes are in our consciousness DMT just allows us to tap into them if you've never read anything by carl jung please do I think you'll enjoy them....

It's one thing to read or hear the words that can so eloquently describe the "tapping into the archetypes" but I feel there is a disconnect between describing or speculating on the concept, but I am unsatisfied for how it accounts for how a crystal clear, multidimensional deity, rendered from more basic DMT geometry, and assembled to reflect the traditional depictions of these deities down to the color and detail, how that manages to be imprinted or encoded into what is a very mathematical-seeming environment. The entire place almost looks like a computer program sometimes, and it seems to me as if they almost would have had to have been "programmed" into the system by someone or something. That's just how I feel on the matter based on how the experience has been presented to me.