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What actually is the cleanest solvent to use for exaction in UK Options
 
ZenSpice
#21 Posted : 5/15/2013 1:53:15 PM

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Gotcha.. I was here hoping to hear about increased yields hehehe Razz

I got about 600ml of Ronsonol left then I may give Swan a go Pleased

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#22 Posted : 5/15/2013 1:59:22 PM

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Gotcha.. I was here hoping to hear about increased yields hehehe

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#23 Posted : 5/15/2013 2:18:09 PM

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If yield is what your after, check out the BLAB tek, orange oil aka limonene is used. their are a few extra steps inolved in the extraction process, but well worth it, and bonus is that you will have fumarate for oral use.

ahhh the fresh citrus smell, yummy.
 
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#24 Posted : 5/15/2013 3:04:48 PM

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How about Heptane? according to some on here it is just as good as Hexane. i have just bought some and used it in cybs tek for the first couple of pulls. nice solid crystals. Here is the link, £6 for 2 litres delivered! evaps totally clean and is pure Heptane.
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#25 Posted : 5/15/2013 3:15:34 PM

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Yes Orion reports Heptane to be very good (Tetrosyl panel wipe). I plan to use this on the next run.
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#26 Posted : 5/15/2013 3:42:33 PM

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I have tried evaping bartoline but that leaves residue...and zippo ... its fairly clean but there is still residue.... Still waiting for the tetrosyl panel wipe to arrive, I will post results...
not that anyones bothered about what i say, apparently i should be banned from the site. and that iiiii'mmm semi bloody illiterate.... Its an absolute outrage.. A Bloody Embarresment, i think ive posted some bloody good stuff lol
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#27 Posted : 5/15/2013 4:03:25 PM

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cyb wrote:
Yes Orion reports Heptane to be very good (Tetrosyl panel wipe).


Tetrosyl panel wipe is Hexane Cyb. The link in my last post is for Heptane. Wink
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#28 Posted : 5/15/2013 5:56:28 PM

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Thank you very much for valuable information in this thread <3 Thumbs up
 
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#29 Posted : 5/15/2013 6:16:01 PM

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Kerberos wrote:

Tetrosyl panel wipe is Hexane Cyb.

Thanks Kerboros...I stand correctedThumbs up

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#30 Posted : 5/15/2013 6:19:39 PM

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#31 Posted : 5/16/2013 8:50:53 PM
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Kerberos wrote:
How about Heptane? according to some on here it is just as good as Hexane. i have just bought some and used it in cybs tek for the first couple of pulls. nice solid crystals. Here is the link, £6 for 2 litres delivered! evaps totally clean and is pure Heptane.



So, you can totally substitute Naphtha in Cyb's for that pure Heptane?

I was thinking I may have to do this but I am really too unclear on how to go about it, would you mind clarifying on how you managed it?
 
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#32 Posted : 5/16/2013 10:19:00 PM

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So, you can totally substitute Naphtha in Cyb's for that pure Heptane?

I was thinking I may have to do this but I am really too unclear on how to go about it, would you mind clarifying on how you managed it?


I warmed the Heptane, 50ml, and added it instead of the naphtha. I did this twice just as an experiment. The Heptane was then put in a pyrex dish and allowed to evaporate overnight. I scraped together the resulting crystals which were in the main very clean with a slightly yellow residue on the base of the dish. From two pulls i got 612mg using Cybs tek with 50g of MHRB. (I did another 4 pulls with naphtha and these are in the freezer.)

So just substitute the word Heptane for the word Naphtha in the tek and your good to go. I dont know if you can freeze precip Heptane hopefully someone will chime in with this info.

I will be doing Cybs tek again but this time i am going to use isoHexane and i will do all the pulls with this solvent. I will post some pics of this when i do this.

I have just finished re-exing the yeild from the two heptane pulls in 25ml of fresh heptane and ended up with 407mg of pure white crystal shards and a blob of yellow goo.Very happy
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#33 Posted : 5/17/2013 3:27:14 AM

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Kerberos wrote:
mrdruid0 wrote:
So, you can totally substitute Naphtha in Cyb's for that pure Heptane?

I was thinking I may have to do this but I am really too unclear on how to go about it, would you mind clarifying on how you managed it?


I warmed the Heptane, 50ml, and added it instead of the naphtha. I did this twice just as an experiment. The Heptane was then put in a pyrex dish and allowed to evaporate overnight. I scraped together the resulting crystals which were in the main very clean with a slightly yellow residue on the base of the dish. From two pulls i got 612mg using Cybs tek with 50g of MHRB. (I did another 4 pulls with naphtha and these are in the freezer.)

So just substitute the word Heptane for the word Naphtha in the tek and your good to go. I dont know if you can freeze precip Heptane hopefully someone will chime in with this info.

I will be doing Cybs tek again but this time i am going to use isoHexane and i will do all the pulls with this solvent. I will post some pics of this when i do this.

I have just finished re-exing the yeild from the two heptane pulls in 25ml of fresh heptane and ended up with 407mg of pure white crystal shards and a blob of yellow goo.Very happy


You answered your own question about re-x/freeze precip in heptane, but i'd like to chime in and say it works very well.

I've replaced naptha, with a limo/fasw acid base, then rebase and re-x with minimal hot heptane.

I've gotten ~1g of white crystals out of about 2.2 grams of heavily purified full spectrum fumarates from an limo/fasw acid base extraction on mhrb. You only need ~15-20ml of heptane when its near boiling hot (be careful obviously), to dissolve alot (i'd say about a gram) of dmt.

It will cloud when you blow across the top, or when its cooled. Do it in a glass container, preferable a weighing jar with a g/g top, or a shot glass with something to seal the top with.

Lots of crystals, and easy to recover. Then just evap until cloudy at room temp, and repeat until you have almost no heptane left. Evap that for yellowish waxy crystals that are just as good as the white stuff.

I love heptane, naptha & I never really got along much, and i didn't really get into freeze precips/re-x's until i picked up a quart of heptane.
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#34 Posted : 5/17/2013 12:49:18 PM

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The Day Tripper wrote:
You answered your own question about re-x/freeze precip in heptane, but i'd like to chime in and say it works very well.


Hi The day tripper,

i have never freeze precipitated Heptane, i have always evaped then re-ex. I do this by putting all the goods in hot Heptane then decanting the clean heptane into another shot glass leaving behind the yellow goo for later use. The clean heptane is then cling filmed and placed in a hot food flask to cool slowly. This results in very clean crystals which i recover by pouring off the heptane which i use again. I will post a couple of pics of my most successful crystal growing when i get home.

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#35 Posted : 5/18/2013 5:24:04 PM

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Ah me bollocks... ok just recieved tetrosyl panel wipe and did a msds search for the part number and now i have found that it looks to be naphtha not hexane here is an updated msds
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#36 Posted : 5/21/2013 3:45:37 PM

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MrInvisible wrote:
Ah me bollocks... ok just recieved tetrosyl panel wipe and did a msds search for the part number and now i have found that it looks to be naphtha not hexane here is an updated msds


This is the tetrosyl panel wipe msds, date 2007.:
MSDS Tetrosyl Panel Wipe
Product numbers: NPW005, PWS025, PWS050, PWS201, THIN09, THIN10, MFS050, PWD005, PWD250
It says N-hexane, EC 203-777-6


So this one ^^^ is out dated, thanks for mentioning.
Your file is 2011, Product numbers: NPW005, PWD005, PWD250
Naphta, EC 265-151-9 <--- different product
I've tried to find more about EC 265-151-9 here:
a max boiling point of 60deg C, well that sounds not bad because hexane has a boiling point of 69 deg C, heptane 99 deg C. It looks even more volatile than hexane.
 
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#37 Posted : 5/21/2013 6:00:25 PM

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It ain't called panel wipe suckas, where did i even mention this ?
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#38 Posted : 5/21/2013 8:34:47 PM

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hello i think it was me that mentioned the panel wipe... still in the moving house process... so not had a chance to do it yet.... i does evaporate cleanly though Smile
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#39 Posted : 5/22/2013 10:32:40 AM

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When it comes to liquid hydrocarbons most refuse to ship overseas, maybe this works because of the aluminium bottles?
 
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#40 Posted : 5/22/2013 11:51:19 AM

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Orion has used hexane in this tek and results look very nice https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&m=455664


I have to agree with DeMenTed on this one.
 
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