Hey people..

I've been listening to one and only, Terrence Mckenna on my way home and he was talking about taking 2g of syrian rue seeds and smoking a joint of phalaris grass.. never thought about it, anyone tried it? is it possible to get off this way?

Interesting! I never knew Terence talked about phalaris at all.

It's very unlikely that one would be able to achieve psychoactive effects smoking phalaris without first extracting it, the alkaloid content is very low.

can you please link to where he talks about this? Im highly skeptical of this producing much of a trip beyond the obvious effects of smoking harmalas.

I would really like a link to this talk.

here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_PLCSJJ6s0

he starts talking about it in 52:00 or something..

he also states in that talk that you can take the rue and then smoke mushrooms...

He says that the phalaris he is talking about is seeds that have just been sprouted sort of like wheat grass...so rolling up a joint of phalaris sprouts after taking 2g of rue..or smoking mushrooms after taking the rue.

I dont know about any of this personally. The phalairs grass I have worked with would not anything if you rolled a little joint out of it. I never tried the sprouts though..and I never tried to smoke mushrooms.

This is some interesting information.

I´ve never tried smoking Mushrooms or Phalaris while MAO inhibited, but... why not trying it, actually?

ive smoked mushrooms before but not on any MAOI

I do not understand how is it possible to smoke shrooms.. even with MAOI influence, a person should smoke, roughly, half or third of dose, so about 1 - 2 grams? Yuuk!!!! makes me gaggle even thinking about it unless MAOI effects you that much that only a tiny bit of psilocybin is enough to take effect. and burning shroom destroys quite a lot psilocybin, as far as I'm informed, thus person has to smoke even more..
better chew it up, I would say
unless there is something I don't know, so please feel free to educate me a bit, I'm open for that!

I took .6g of golden teachers in tea 2 nights ago and had a pretty good trip for 7 hours in total complete with visions in the dark that were extremely similar to ayahuasca.

If the alkaloids are active vaped, once should need less than oral..so I would def not need 1-2g.

I would not smoke dry mushrooms anyway..and I am not saying it will work..just pointing out that becasue one person needs 2g to get off does not mean another person does. Yes I have take doses in excess of 5g in the past so I know what a large dose is like..and at this point 2g will get me to where 5g took me in the past.

just correct me if I'm wrong - you took 0.6g of cubes and had a trip? I'm not saying it's not possible, i've just never heard of a dose like this can make you trip. 3-3.5 g is what i need to take if i want to have an experience. i took 1g once, which made the edges sharpen followed by very unpleasant feeling of being somewhere in between... so after an hour or so i took another 2g to get me somewhere. and i consider myself quite sensitive to these substances. but i suppose everyone is different.

Maybe your mushrooms were of low potency, or you just aren´t that "quite sensitive" after all

I can also feel the effects at 0.6g (though I don´t have any OEVs/CEVs at this level). And 3,5g on empty stomach in in silent darkness? This is the method to send me "there" quite reliably.

I have some Phalaris experience. We grew a batch in a small wading pool to about 18" high. P. Aquaticus, very easy to grow. Allegedly it was a 5-MEO containing plant (which other tests seemed to support). We dried and smoked quite a bit of it. On its own, pretty much nothing (never tried this with an MAOI however). But if you are already on a significant dose of LSD or shrooms, that's another story entirely. The effects are very short- a matter of seconds- but profoundly psychoactive. It feels like you are temporarily diving much deeper into your trip, and the vibe is distinctly tryptamine-like. And you can puff on a joint of the stuff continuously and it's just as with strong each toke. I found these effects to be very compelling.

By no means would I compare this to vaping freebase spice while already on acid or shrooms... Which is a whole different level of amazing.

really Guy? I have 3 pots of aquatica growing right now..and 10g of the aus cultivar of aquatica on the way also..so this sounds good to me. Must be a decent ammount of tryptamines present to make it noticable from smoking the leaf blades even while already on mushrooms.

Try it, I'd love to hear your reaction. I don't know anyone else (besides my friend that i grew it with) who has tried this. I usually had it with LSD, any active dose should give you some effect from the Phalaris, but the more the merrier. Had it a couple times with 3+ g of shrooms. The effect is not subtle.

I just got some big medicine strain so this is definitely intriguing. Didn't think the blades were active w/o doing some work

I will be harvesting some and extracting at some point this summer, and bioassaying it..so when I do I will post about it.