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Walter D. Roy
#1 Posted : 5/3/2013 5:28:56 PM

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Lately my interest has been focused on the Amanita Muscaria. I have been going back and listening to some Terence Mckenna lectures, mostly to find some guidance on the use of Magic Mushrooms. I have very little experience with mushrooms, other than eating and enjoying mushrooms from the store, or fresh from the woods. But using them for their psychoactive properties has only occurred a few times in my life. Amanita though seems to be different. I don't live in a place where they would ever grow. So I have been forced to internet research to try and discover something. I have been reading bits and pieces of the book "Herb of Immortality" by Donald E. Teeter.

See this is where I get to the part of why I am even posting about all this stuff. I have always heard stuff about Amanita Muscaria being used as a shamanic tool. Mostly as Soma. Reusing the ibotanic acid that the body doesn't ingest and is excreted in the persons urine. I was reading about this and it seemed interesting, I was even half planning on trying it. But drinking my pee didn't sound to nice.

Teeter started to look into ways that the ancients would preserve and use the Amanita. He says they refer to it as the Immortal Herb because water will rehydrate the mushroom after it has been dried. He also talk about making Amanita Bread and Wine. In his book, he talks a lot about how these are the "Sacraments". I am not very interested in this though.

I am wanting to look more into making the Wine. He says he uses grape juice. Now I have been looking around on forums and such and reading stuff about the amanita. But all the information seems really scattered and a lot of different opinions.

My main purpose of this is to ask if anyone has more information on this? Or knows more about this. I am planning to try and find some amanita muscaria and try to make this Wine, by using the directions given by Mr. Teeter.

I am just looking to create an open thread kind of thing. If anyone is interested in looking into this with me and try to replicate this that would be great! Like I said, I am trying to get some amanitas and try this as soon as possible.

I also don't want to rush into this. If you guys think that this is a useless venture, please tell me!

http://www.ambrosiasocie...es/herbofimmortality.pdf - this is Teeters book. Mostly what I have been looking at.

Well I think I am going to stop ranting. Hopefully I will find some amanita soon and get back to you guys. And if anyone wants to share their experience with Amania Muscaria feel free!

Thanks for reading all of this! Good times to everyone.

Walter
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#2 Posted : 5/3/2013 6:23:59 PM

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the only grape juice amanita tek i know of was thought to be growing amanita mycelium. however it was discovered that mycelium had black spores (amanita has white), so it is thought to be a mucor of some sort.

this mucor (?) it would seem is the "eternal fleece".
Ambrosia Society wrote:
1. Dried Amanita muscaria mushrooms are re-hydrated in a small bowl by sprinkling them with water or soaking them in a small amount of water (both methods seemed to be used).

2. After proper re-hydration the mushrooms are pressed to recover the Soma Juice using "fingers" "wooden boards" or pressing "stones" which correspond to the first, second and third pressing of the mushrooms, as the same Soma plants were re-hydrated and pressed three times in one day. The expressed juice was caught in a small bowl for the next stage of the process.

3. The resulting juice was poured on to the high end of a wooden trough a few feet long, set at a shallow angle lined with the "eternal fleece". The purpose of this is to filter the particles of Soma plant from the Soma juice. When dried Amanita muscaria is re-hydrated, in three days or less it displays its Immortality as it "calls forth the out spun thread" and grows mycelium that greatly resembles Sheep Wool and that this Soma created "wool" is the "eternal fleece" used to filter the Soma juice; thus the meaning of the Rig Veda Title Pavamana "self purifying". It must be remembered that not only is the mushroom "immortal" but also that every drop of the Soma juice is capable of coming back to life in three days and creating its own out spun threads, so any new wooden or terracotta vessel used to hold the Soma juice will be alive with woolly mycelium in a few days.

4. The now purified juice fell into a large wooden vat sitting at the end of the filtering trough, that was also growing the eternal fleece from previous use, into this vat a cooled previously cooked mixture of barley, water, milk, and honey was added to the small amount of Soma juice in the vat. (This is one of three recipes I decoded from the Rig Veda; the Eternal fleece loves its food, "Soma grows great with food"Pleased Note; it is unclear if the now cooled, strained, cooked barley water brew was also poured on the filtering trough or simply poured into the wooden vat.

5. After a certain time had passed during which specific Hymns were sung, the Soma was dipped out of the large vat using wooden ladles coated with the eternal fleece, into wooden or terracotta pitchers also growing the eternal fleece. The Soma was then poured into the individual wooden or terracotta cups of the Soma ceremony participants. Now, if the cup had been used to drink Soma previously it too, would be lined with the eternal fleece.

6. Each contact of the Soma juice with the eternal fleece living in the different vessels used in the process would greatly increase the strength of the Soma drink. The resulting Soma in a cup is orders of magnitude stronger than the undiluted original juice pressed from the re-hydrated Amanita muscaria mushrooms.

7. Not only is the self purified Soma far stronger than the original dried mushroom juice, it has different qualities compared to the original juice which seems some what toxic to many people producing nausea, stomach upset, sweating. The Soma drink self purified with its own eternal fleece produces a smooth experience generating almost no negative physical symptoms and a higher quality spiritual experience.


i have been wanting to try this with grape juice instead of milk and barley, but i have not gotten around to it.
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#3 Posted : 5/3/2013 6:30:46 PM

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I have made hibiscus tea with amanita many times. It is very pleasant and uplifting. The hibiscus is a great vasodilator, and the amanita throws in its kind of clear headed inebriation. I have never had enough amanita to trip from it, as everything I've read makes me very cautious about it. Maybe one day....

It does seem to greatly potentiate psilocybin mushrooms. It adds a different chaos to the trip, but in some ways it's more manageable.

You're not wasting your time! The grape juice is probably worth looking in to.
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Walter D. Roy
#4 Posted : 5/14/2013 4:44:49 PM

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