I have read plenty about snuffing Bufo & smoking Bufo, but can one ingest it orally like DMT-HCL+MAOI?

Could one theoretically re-salt the crystals after cleaning well with D-Limonene etc... & make gel caps to take the Bufotenine orally?

Would an MAOI be necessary?
As the length of a smoked Bufo experience is much longer lasting then that of smoked N,N-DMT, is it safe to assume that Bufotenine is metabolized slower & would not need MAOI (or not as much) to be orally active?

Anyone eating there Bufotenine?


WS

No MAOI is needed, but an MAOI will double or triple the potency.

Orally the trip stars after about 20 minutes, peaks after about 90 minutes and lasts about 4 hours or so.

SWIM has tried this route many times with 99% pure bufotenine. It feels like a completely different drug that way. It causes nausea throughout the entire trip. You’re going to need some anti-nausea herb like ginger root, about 1000 mg of it every 90 minutes or so to combat the nausea. The most SWIM has taken orally is 100 mg. 100 mg orally is equivalent to about 2 mg of smoked bufotenine or about 20 mg snorted.

The nausea ruins the experience, but it’s otherwise quite nice, orally it’s sort of like LSA, but without any sedative effects. The nausea is constant and never goes away. At 100 mg it’s not enough to make you vomit, but you definitely feel nausea for the entire trip. If you take enough, you’ll be vomiting over and over and over throughout the entire trip.

Is there an anti-nausea medication that works for 5-HT drugs like bufotenine without making you sleepy or negatively affecting the trip? Ginger works great without affecting the trip, but it's only useful to a certain extent.

Well alright, glad I asked!!

That sounds like something I'll just avoid...thank you...now, where is that oil burner attachment I had...


Thanks man!

WS

Have you tried MAOI-with-Vaporized bufotenine?

Vaporized Bufo by itself, lasts like 1.5-to-2 hours, correct?
Do you think it would extend the length of the effects to around 4 hours, like MAOI+oral ingestion?

Just wondering really, going to be extracting some Vilca seeds very soon and the information-condensation is now in full-effect...

Plus, I absolutely love the effects of Vaporized N,N-DMT-with-MAOI!!
As far as I'm concerned, It's the only way to fly!!!


Cheers,

WS

maoi with vaped bufo does make it last quite a bit longer

THH goes really well with bufotenine. It makes the visuals more DMT-like and makes the trip last about 2 times longer without introducing any negative head fog.

Also, 3 Datura stramonium seeds completely block the nausea from oral bufotenine allowing you to take much larger oral doses without the annoying nausea it causes when taken orally.

how would you say you're swim would compare vaped bufo and THH to a mid level mushrooms dose?..would that mix be as profound and moving as psilocybin? I ask becasue of the similarity in reguards to the hydroxy group..I am a bufo newb..but I have had lots of psilocybin and psilocin and there is something so profound about both of them.

Mushrooms are more mentally psychedelic, more emotionally psychedelic, while bufotenine even with the THH is primarily a visual experience. They are similar in ways though. The visuals of smoked bufotenine start out very rough and sharp and electric but then as the trip progresses they get more and more psilocybin like. The THH makes the trip longer and alters the visuals making them more dreamy and more like DMT and less like psilocybin. Bufotenine lacks the spiritual richness of psilocybin. It’s almost entirely just visual, at least for SWIM it’s like that. It’s a little more spiritual when taken orally or snuffed rather than smoked.

When bufotenine is taken orally (always with 3 Datura stramonium seeds to block the nausea) the trip is much more psilocybin like. You don’t get the rough electric visuals you get from smoking it but rather the visuals are as they are after the smoked bufotenine peaks, meaning they are very similar to psilocybin visuals, almost exactly, at least for SWIM it’s like that. The body feel is similar to LSA though and unlike that of psilocybin.

It seems that some people get little or no visual effects from bufotenine. I’m not sure why, but that definitely seems to be the case.

yes..its very interesting...SWIM has found that he can get to the threshold visual effects but that is about it...he also feels like the more that he works with this substance..he gets more receptive to it...for SWIM..when smoked...its the closest thing to psilocybin that he can smoke...but he also feels enormous potential for visuals..perhaps for some people the needs to be another chemical to unlock the visuals...who really knows..

SWIM has tried many different methods of extraction bufotenine..and smoking methods..and still has yet to have effects like he was expecting..but he knows they are there..its just a matter of finding them..

What’s the most you’ve smoked in one shot?

There’s a certain threshold you need to pass over before the visuals become intense, until you get to that dosage level, the visuals are mild psilocybin like visuals only. For SWIM that threshold is about 8-10 mg of pure white bufotenine crystals or about 15-20 mg of impure stuff.

In South America, the natives usually smoke the seeds with tobacco while chewing on caapi. Caapi is also often used when they take the snuff. Another thing commonly used is coca leaf. During some of the all night Yopo parties, they typically use coca leaf and caapi right before using Yopo.

perhaps SWIM is just not getting enough..SWIM just ate 3 Datura s. seeds and then took 75mg mildly pure bufotenine sublingually..and is already feeling very nice after 10 minutes...