the basic primal urge

of existence

is to get to the next level

of existence


no wonder than that

so many are

totally engrossed/obessesed in the prusuit

of getting to the next level

in the video/computer games


of course it does not make

a difference what one does

in a virtual space


people also misinterpret

the next level of existence

as just having more money to buy more stuff

the next level is

a dimensional concept

dealing with state after death

and charge-coherence while alive


most people have subverted this primal urge

with trivial goals and pursuits

beneath all that

the obsession for getting

to the next level is there

it just needs to be channeled

to the real levels

not the virtual world levels

or society made levels

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Is this why enlightened minds take DMT?

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From: http://lotusocean.blogsp...3/04/the-next-level.html

I'm far from enlightened, but I take DMT. I mean, what does that word even mean? It's vacuous in my opinion.

Did you write this poem?

This is a comment on life after death and enlightenment I theorized about 24 hours after one of my first DMT breakthrough experiences.

One consciousness means might be two separate beings maybe one male energy one female energy. In love if one dies a free spirit. But good willed and "morally" outstanding. They join into the "greater consciousness" which is the oneness of either the male energy or female energy respectively. This is the Adam and Eve scenario. We are all part of two greater selves than separately we stand. This life... this "shell" is the "knowledge of good and evil" being played out into the greater consciousness, experiencing this reality as a human being or more rather MANY human beings. ALL AT ONCE. Evolution is change plain and simple nothing more nothing less.


ev·o·lu·tion

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noun

1.
any process of formation or growth; development: the evolution of a language; the evolution of the airplane.

2.
a product of such development; something evolved: The exploration of space is the evolution of decades of research.

3.
Biology . change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.

4.
a process of gradual, peaceful, progressive change or development, as in social or economic structure or institutions.

5.
a motion incomplete in itself, but combining with coordinated motions to produce a single action, as in a machine.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evolution

We change every second something in us is changing at every second... We are always evolving we always have been... perhaps death is a different form of evolution, where we experience either Ultimate Love or Ultimate Hate... Ultimate doesn't even sum it up... If we live a good life we just exist in a state of pure bliss, pure love. If we build our foundations upon hatred, then what can we expect in the afterlife...

The body is filled with boundless energy... this we know... maybe not boundless but damn near it. I mean Life is literally the only source of perpetual energy in the world. And here we've been trying to create it our entire lives. When we already harness perpetual energy. We are machines that create our own energy, and further more we create our own reality due to the life we lead and the choices we make during that life. Now as anyone who knows even a little bit about "energy" in the most literal sense knows, it cannot be created nor destroyed it can only be altered... manipulated or, changed(Evolved)... get it are you waking up yet? What exactly happens to this energy after we die? It would in theory just change somehow right, or more so, evolve?

Quantum mechanics shows that at the very base level of this study, if watching a particle it exists in one way or another yet it doesn't exist at all, simultaneously, but it only takes solid "shape" or sticks to routine (what we perceive) when we observe it. Everything we and everything we know... is made of something that exists yet doesn't exist all at once... Hologram maybe? We project our world via observation. Where create the goods and the evils of our worlds, and our own worlds are colliding, were all at war with each other, and we all EVERY HUMAN needs to just work in harmony. One god or many gods it doesn't matter, because why can't the things that are very small made of millions of tiny lifeforms making one larger or smaller life form continuously in either a positive multiplication or negative division. Whats more god like than? Other than every piece of matter in our entire universe, whether it be the very big, or the very small, It doesn't matter its all connected by some kind of molecule... in the expanse of things... we are a pin head... yet to us even the term pin head we know as "small", minute even... Yet what are we in the grand scheme of things... Lost souls trying to find peace... love... life... redemption?

I disagree.

You've become enlightened by taking DMT. Meaning you have experienced the true nature of reality.

Not many people on this planet have seeked to truly level up and 'wake up'.

I always imagine and hope that one day the DMT experience will be outdone by a newly discovered drug. New RCs are constantly being invented. It's only a matter of time, in my opinion, before we push past DMT to the NEXT level. Then again, the next level may not be a drug at all. It might instead be some sort of virtual reality induced brain-computer interface.

It's crazy to think about indeed! I just hope the rc's stop getting so strange and nauseating. I feel like people are just mashing any chemicals together these days just to break a few sweats and see some trails. I hope it gets more pure and beneficial!

Or..try 50mg of salvinorin A...or 50mg 5-meo-dmt

I hope nothing ever comes close to DMT everything about it amazes me. I hope one day its simply legalized, we can hope and dream.

I doubt it. Science learns from nature for inspiration.

DMT is natural, god already created the ultimate rocket fuel, the only thing above it is actual 24/7 dmt which is to "die"....

Can you support that claim besides bringing it as an empty fact? To me that sounds a lot like hippy talk without any backup and we just have to assume that with faith, not something that fits the DMT-Nexus.

All the times I took DMT it looked far from "the true nature of reality". So to me it seems that you gave some personal meaning to your personal experience with DMT and think that this applies to us all, which it doesn't.

The poem was nice though.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

No drug will ever make a human enlightened.

I really hate that people equate these drugs with enlightenment. I do believe they can be very powerful, profound, spiritual tools, but to say things like this just does the tool a huge diservice.

It may be that drugs can induce a mystical experience that PERHAPS allows a brief glimpse into what enlightenment could be. But the only way you can claim enlightenment is by living an enlightened life every day.

Enlightenment must be earned. It's not something you can just fire up a vapor genie and achieve.

Peace.

I agree that RC experiences are not usually held to high standards, but there have been a few RCs that have come to be known as pure and beneficial (LSD, for example). If we do one day produce a next-level RC that is also pure and beneficial, it will probably be by accident, and we are going to have to produce a lot of crappy RCs before we find a gem. Also, mashing random chemicals together is how nature does it.


Nature does not always produce the best. The last really great thing that nature created was homo sapien, and we have pretty much picked up where nature left off since then. Electrical machines and LSD may have been produced by nature eventually, but since nature's esteemed method is simply to try random things until something works, I think science did it much quicker. Science is like self-aware nature: If you just throw things together (nature), you will eventually find something that works, but if you stop and think about the combinations that didn't work and why (science), you will come to a solution much quicker. Nature cannot think, but it created a being that could (at least much quicker, depending on how you define thought).

Also, DMT is hardly natural. As far as we know, it exists on just one planet out of 2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (10 trillion planets per galaxy X 200 billion galaxies, at least).

I think it is easy to think you are enlightened after taking a drug like dmt . I think it has a physical effect on your brain where it convinces you that what you have experienced at the time is very real, meaningful and that you have been told a secret. And with time these feelings can pass as the effects wear off and your brain becomes "normal".

I see it as similar to when you get drunk and find someone attractive who you wouldn"t normally, and in the morning you think what "happened last night??" but at the same time you have no regrets and are inspired because you had a beautiful experience with someone who you wouldn"t normally appreciate that way. Dmt is like psychedelic beer goggles for me.

I feel the nearest i have come to enlightenment is realising that i can be a dick sometimes, but being ok with it. I find that feeling very transcendental. But i am not sure whether this has anything to do with Dmt but more to do with my internal dick-o-meter/body clock.

I do not actually know what enlightenment is. Is it the light coming to you? Or is it that your load has been lightened by an experience? I guess, depending on what you think enlightenment is, i am prepared to believe that someone could be become enlightened from taking drugs, but it is also possible to become enheavy-ened aswell, if you don"t watch your step .

That is a brilliant remark.

There is no such thing as the “true nature of reality”. (Don’t people learn that in Enlightenment 101?)


In my experience, DMT continues to outdo itself. Every once in a while, DMT is the newly discovered drug. It allows one to continually push to the NEXT level. (What value is there in pushing to the next level?)

I consider myself somewhat experienced with DMT, and I’ve had my share of deep experiences, and I’m open-minded and believe that anything is possible when in a DMT experience, but several nights ago, I unintentionally and unexpectedly went much further than I ever did before. I’m not going to go into details, but when I returned, I kept repeating –

“I didn’t think it was possible.”

I had a trip similar it had me in tears begging myself, my girlfriend, and the sky to "never let me forget!" over and over again.

What makes you assert this? Especially when religions like Buddhism go to great lengths to talk about waking up to the true nature of reality? Hardly seems as though enlightenment 101 would teach against reality having a true nature.

Now perhaps, ironically, everyone searches for this true nature when in fact it is nothing more than things as the currently are. This moment is the true nature of reality...and that is true wether you are watching it rain by a lake or seeing infinite kingdoms of gold spiral into your inner view on a DMT trip. Both are still 'reality' and both are still true.

At least in terms of Buddism the true nature of reality is nothing more than dropping the identity of a separate, ever lasting self from the current moment. Experiencing now as nothing more than now.

The true nature of reality is this: Just be.

Well, maybe it’s Enlightenment 901 where I learned that.

I’m just exploring ideas, and looking at the problems with words: What does “true” mean? What is “reality”? What is “enlightenment”?

To wake up implies that one is presently asleep. At what point in your journey can you be confident that you aren’t still asleep? How can you know you aren't awakening from one dream into another? A dream in a dream in a dream ...

Why the awake/asleep dichotomy? Why not a never-ending awakening? Why not an eternal movement toward the “truth”? Something that is approached, but never reached?

I doubt they were similar.

I wasn’t in tears begging to never forget. I was just grateful to have made it back with my mind intact.

“Humpty-Dumpty sat on a wall…”