Hey all ive been reading on the dark spice thread pages and pages and i have a question but cant post on there yet so here goes. the current procedure is to do the a/b or stb use the naptha or heptane then do the xylol afterthat and refine by washing hot heptane etc etc. my question is whats the difference between this red spice and the red spice collected from the naptha afterit has been freezer preciped and then evaped. are there more or diff alks that the xylol pulls out and has anybody evaped the naptha after its been freez preciped. that yellow naptha yields some real nice things if left to evap down.has everyone been throwing out that yellow goo or what cause its as good if not better than the white crystals imho.....big question mark...... also doing the xylol thing now so will assy the diff ....Cheers

I think i should have posted this up a couple threads as well sorry.. move if ness. im still having navigation issues.

Hello strk.one,

I'm not sure if I fully understand your question but I do know this: nahptha and heptane are much more selective non-polar solvents and tend to yield a spice closer to white. Whereas Toluene, Xylene and d-Limonene are so-called full-spectrum and give so-called full spectrum spice. And yes, I have pulled for white or off-white spice using nahptha, then gone back to the same basified mimosa mixture and pulled using Toluene for the so-called "jungle spice." Jungle spice takes weeks to fully dry and as a waxy solid, where as my regular spice dries in hours and is fluffy crystals.

So. . . Welcome to the Nexus. I hope that helped at least a little bit. Perhaps more answers will be coming.

In the interim, can you give us more of an introduction of yourself please? Do you have much extraction experience to date? Which tek do you like to use? How do you like the DMT experience? Have you tried many other entheogens? Is there anything else you might be willing to share with us such as focus of career and/or education or hobbies. Anything to help us get to know you a little bit better.

In the interim, I recommend you thoroughly review all those valuable links that came with your Welcome PM. That information is pure gold, compiled over a period of years by folks who really care and know their material. For instance, the wiki link can lead you to all the entheogenic plant extraction teks.

Please take a good look around - there's lot's going on here. I hope you will choose to participate.

Again, welcome to the Nexus.

Hey pandora, stb from mimosa so far is the mode of preference and have done this with great success with yields of 6 gm from 500gm powdered and also from the inner bark strips. The question is and I see that u did answer it was when the naptha witch was used warm to do the np extraction from the stb formula is freezer precipitated and yes fairly white crystals or really more of a powder was obtained.
After this the naptha was then allowed to evap in a window with an electric fan un till a yellow goo was recovered. As this is done with all the naptha pulls and all said goo is collected the remaining product is an orange active substance that is from what ive read about the jungle spice is very similar in activity and very potent.
The second guestion was Does anybody evap their naptha after it has been freez preciped as well. I can assume that if this goo is not washed with heptane it probibly still contains some dmt as well. Do you think that this yellow then orange goo is the same substance as pulled with the xylol but that the xylol is just a bit more efficient than the naptha.
Or are you saying that the xylol pulles even more and different alks?
...As an introduction of my self ive been interested in entheogens for a long time and have been successful in doing pharma with crushed rue as well as the classics like lysergic and tryptamines mostly mushies. currently i am interested in gardening and starting cacti from seed aswell as worm wood, hbwr, mimosa. I enjoy growing food as well. tattooer by trade ive moved alot and have recently have found a home wher i can do my trade aswell as grow my garden.
Ive been creeping on here and befor this dmt world to garner the valuable information that is available. I can sit here and read for hours but just recently ive joined up to communicate with others as most of my hobbies and life views arent shared readily by imediate company in everyday life. I hope to get to know more people and continue to grow spiritually thru these amazing entheogens. thank you for your time cheers....

I wish I could use Mimosa, my confusa results have been allll over the shop.
I usually extract with Toluene, then evaporate, as it requires less pulls as DMT is very soluble in toluene.
I then dry it with a fan, and then re-crystalise in a minimal quantity of heated Naptha, I then freeze precip.
I don't mean to be a douche, but in future, try to use Paragraphs....it's a bit hard to read.
Welcome to the Nexus

Hey shane i edited the post it was a bit confusing. thnx for the reply. Ive been looking into the phalaris thing on here as well and have seeds to plant and see what i can get from that also desmanthus illi.... Sucks about the mimosa thing it deff has great yields, im assumaing its an issue with the country u live in?....
Anyways i havent really seen a tek that has you keep the goo after the naptha has been freeze preciped and let that evap down. the first go around still had some crystals form in the evaped product. The Latest hasnt had crystals but still an orange color that is darker in color than the xylol evaped product but that could be because only one xylol pull was done sofar. No assy has been done on either just the more pure dmt, but looking forward to trying both. Probly are diff as its been stated the xylol is broad spectrum. just curious about other peoples processes. Cheers

I too have tried to smoke the evaporated goop and found fairly decent effects from it very similar to the DMT high I didn't try much I was mostly interested in the white crystals next time I Extract though I will def see if any goop remains and try it again,