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TOXSIN
#1 Posted : 4/19/2013 10:44:06 PM

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Well lemme start off first by saying that I first chewed on some Salvia leaves, after an hour or so I packed a bowl of regular DMT, got a decent trip nothing remarkable... but my friend (A) and I decided to go further into the rabbit hole....

So I then had a brilliant idea to pack a bowl of DMT + skull cap infused with 5-MEO-DMT and Syrian rue

If DMT can be compared to heaven

5-MEO can be compared to hell to put it lightly so I hit the pipe and nothing could have prepared me for what I felt.

and as soon as I felt the first effects I knew it was gonna be intense. I could just tell.
I was fucked, and in for the ride of my life I start getting this rushing feeling like I'm de-materializing and I see this blue and black vortex forming in my vision and before it finished forming I had to stand up and move away from the fire because it was simply too chaotic and upon doing so the only thing I could do was wave my hand at Friends (C) (J) and (A) indicating "don't follow me please."

So I sat on the bridge in my backyard and as I'm sitting there the vortex continues forming, it starts from 3 sides top of my view and bottom two corners and it moves inwards to a spiral like a black hole. Then my entire visual field was corrupted by this spinning fractal black, blue, and green vortex and from there my visual field went from 180 degrees to 360, I could see in every direction at once.

There was no up, down, left, right, front, back, it was just everything and nothing at once like I was in the center of a black hole, at the singularity I didn't have a body my concept of "Self" was shattered. "I" was non existent all matter existed on an subatomic level as singular beings in other words every atom every molecule of matter was a living being whether I was staring at a tree or a rock, It was alive and every particle of it was alive.

I was everything and nothing the beginning and the end of the universe.

I experienced heaven and hell collide into my brain and cause the big bang.Space didn't exist, all matter was intertwined , everything no matter if it was 20 ft from me or touching me was all connected into the area of an atom but also still had relative distance all at once.

My ego was fighting with me, my ego wanted me to get lost in that space and never come out I had to will myself with EVERY OUNCE of me,... "me" whatever that was at the time I didn't even know. "I" was simply a thought.

I had to keep telling "myself" and reminding "myself" who "I" was...what "I" was...

And I was screaming silently at myself to stay in the here and now... realize that I will be fine, and this will be over soon through this entire period of time... by the way time stopped and was non-existant at least in the way we perceive time.

I was feeling completely helpless in this state

Then right when I thought I was gonna snap and couldn't hold myself together anymore, I was comforted by something

It was like a motherly spirit, it basically told me this type of thing must happen. It is the way all things must be (chaotic)then it warmed me up, it rebuilt me molecule by molecule and slowly I started regaining "Me" and I was stilling seeing crazy visuals but they were "nicer" colors

like blues and yellows oranges light greens purple, every color yet no colors just a pure white all at once.

The infinite spiral came back but bright and nice looking

filling me with joy and hope. Spiraling in every direction infinitely spiraling and branching in every direction at once, (directions as we know them) Once again this area, has no "directions".

I exited the spiral through the center and the visuals slowly faded off giving me a nice euphoric feeling and keeping me at peace, comforting me and I ended my trip in a giggle fit just awe struck completely, and had a great time discussing the trips with my friends. (A) had tripped with me and experienced similar but different effects... I wouldn't call this a bad trip... just a difficult trip I feel no trip is bad if you can learn something from it. And I definitely did... I am still learning even 24 hours after the trip. I feel energized and revitalized. Almost like my "real eyes" are open for the very first time since I've been born.
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 

Good quality Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) for an incredible price!
 
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#2 Posted : 4/19/2013 11:05:44 PM

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excellent report, i'm tripping now so it was really a great read. can't comment to much as typing is tough, but really .... great report
 
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#3 Posted : 4/19/2013 11:09:18 PM

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Thanks! What are you tripping on currently? If you can't answer this right away I fully understand. But please get back to me eventually!
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
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#4 Posted : 4/19/2013 11:16:02 PM

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i'm on cactus, allylescaline and 25i(phenylethylamines) . it's fun trip but kind of tough to get all thoughts out easily, not sure of what exactly is being said. very fluid.
 
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#5 Posted : 4/19/2013 11:37:27 PM

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Allylescaline, is this similar to atropine alkaloids?
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#6 Posted : 4/20/2013 12:14:32 AM

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TOXSIN wrote:
Allylescaline, is this similar to atropine alkaloids?


Non that I know but allylescaline sounds awfully close to mescaline, also obviously from a cactus.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

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#7 Posted : 4/20/2013 12:34:09 AM

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You're right that sounds more logical to me as well just never heard of that. Maybe some synthetic mescaline?
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
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#8 Posted : 4/20/2013 12:45:22 AM

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sounds like you smoked bufotenine, if by 5meoDMT you are referring to anadenanthera perigrina. There is no 5meoDMT containing peregrina available on the market as far as I know. Vendors might claim so but I dont think so..unless you went out and harvested anadenanthera peregrina var. falcata what you have is most likely going to contain mostly bufotenine and not much 5meoDMT if any. It also sounds like bufotenine effects(when bufo is mixed with other things, on its own its not so interesting aside from the visuals).

Just saying, becasue there is a lot of bad info out there claiming yopo is 5meoDMT etc and this just does not seem to be the case. The peregrina var. falcata is the only one that I have heard someone use that gave effects other than what is common with bufotenine and it is not available from vendors. You have to go harvest it in south america.

...there is also another problem which is that vendors often apparently sell "peregrina" that is really colubrina..in general though I think most peregrina and colubrina are both bufotenine dominant. Colubrina just contains a higher %.
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#9 Posted : 4/20/2013 12:50:26 AM

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Yes after having now done more research I believe you are correct I used the title form the original journal note I made before being fully aware of the actual actives because when I did this originally a little under two years ago, I was finding numerous varying reportsof it being mainly 5-meo or bufotenine but also saying that peregrina and columbrina seeds had some huge difference and they were being marketed as the same stuff. So in reality no I'm not 100% sure if it was bufo or 5-meo, thank you for pointing this out.
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#10 Posted : 4/20/2013 12:53:41 AM

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I am pretty sure it was bufotenine. I have worked with bufotenine extensivly in the past sources from anadenanthera and the spiral effects you mention with colors etc..that is very common with bufotenine.

I never worked with the peregrina var. falcata because it is not available but sometime I would like to get my hands on some to see if the claims of it being the 5meoDMT dominant seeds are true.
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#11 Posted : 4/20/2013 12:55:53 AM

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The only other times I've used the yopo as a snuff or smoke I got only minor effects on a mild DXM trip plus smoking some cannabis and the yopo powder resulted in electric blue grids all over my visual field. This is also bufotenine like am I correct?
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Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
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#12 Posted : 4/20/2013 1:17:43 AM

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sounds like bufotenine yes.
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#13 Posted : 4/20/2013 1:24:21 AM

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Well good than thank you for this useful insight. What plants contain 5-MEO I know I can obtain this through a simple search but if you know some potent ones off the top of the head?
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
 
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