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#21 Posted : 3/26/2009 7:29:59 PM

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its just..when you smoke it..you know you will be down in a little bit..but when you take a massive dose of pharma...its quite different...it comes on very very fast..like smoking..except you dont know where its going to stop..if it even does...instead of the instant ego death...it happens slowly and you watch parts of yourself falling away..and then once you get there...you are there for a long time..
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#22 Posted : 3/27/2009 6:49:30 AM

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edited to delete my question. google is my friend... Very happy

how long does and iboga trip last? apparently it's a long one eh?
 
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#23 Posted : 3/28/2009 10:09:19 PM

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SWIM has noticed that some times some psychedelics can be a replacement drug for people suffering from physiological addictions. any ol drug will do in a fix. with psychedelics at least the experience can create a meaningful experieince that can possibly not allways help the addict to understand the nature of their addiction and life style and find ways to change from the insights if any that they gleaned from the experience..
SWIM had a freind who came to him because he had just bought some heroin and wanted to stop, and not even use it... SWIMS freind instead wanted to do a phenethamine that he knew and loved instead in a ceremony to kick heronin... lots of good things happened that night but it didnt cure him of his addiction but swim hopes that it gave him at least some insights that helped him down that eventual road.
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#24 Posted : 4/10/2009 8:21:35 PM
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VisualDistortion wrote:
Iboga here too.

http://www.shamanic-extr...c-ethnobotanicals/iboga/

Certainly interesting with all the wonderufl things I've heard about it.

But there is something about that site that doesn't seem right. Look at the shipping restrictions for peyote and Iboga. I know peyote isn't legal anywhere in the US and I didn't think Iboga was either. Can someone else take a look and comment on it.


I've had experience with this site and also live in the states. I can't comment on the quality of their products, as each one was a first-time use so I have no comparison basis, but at least one was a profound experience for me. I believe the site is just taking a chance that they can ship those items to the states without getting caught by Customs. I might say that I did purchase one of those items and it made it to me with no ramifications, but I am an incredible BS'er and no one should take that seriously. On a side note, I very recently received an email from on on-line pharmacy to let customers know that recent shipments of their products are being delayed in Customs and they are sorry for the delays, but can't do anything about it. Might not be a good time to to risk anything that's iffy.
 
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#25 Posted : 4/10/2009 9:26:50 PM

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I'd say the following botanicals are the best addiction cures-

1) Iboga- Has been shown to help with basically any kind of addiction, but specifically opiates.
2) Ayahuasca- Has been shown to be a general cure for a range of addictions.
3) Peyote- Has been repeatably shown to cure alcoholism in Native Americans and other Peyote-users, as well as interrupt other types of addiction.


Y'all can easily grow your own Iboga plants! It's not hard once they are past the seedling stage! Seriously! It's about the only way to obtain true Iboga in the U.S.!!!

WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

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#26 Posted : 4/11/2009 5:21:16 AM

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how easy is it to get the seeds?
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#27 Posted : 4/11/2009 12:24:36 PM

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from what I've gathered, iboga seems like it may be best to have a guide, no?
 
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#28 Posted : 4/12/2009 7:38:04 PM

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how easy is it to get the seeds?


Easy as clicking sites and sending payment.

PM me for Iboga seeds/cutting vendor!

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from what I've gathered, iboga seems like it may be best to have a guide, no?


Yes always have a trip sitter when using Iboga!
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