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#1 Posted : 4/16/2013 1:32:37 AM
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#2 Posted : 4/16/2013 2:10:52 AM

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Drink the tea. There is a ceremonial feel to it in my opinion.
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#3 Posted : 4/16/2013 2:40:43 AM
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#4 Posted : 4/16/2013 2:44:16 AM

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i don't know if you'll like this but i'm on it right now and it works great for me. i just grind up strong, dry cactus(peru torch) using a coffee grinder and then place about 5-7 grams powder on a piece of toilet paper, make a little ghost out of it(ball with a twisted tail) and then just swallow it with a little liquid. i just got down 20 grams no porblem and i feel great.
 
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#5 Posted : 4/16/2013 2:53:27 AM
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wow man, that is hardcore
 
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#6 Posted : 4/16/2013 2:57:34 AM

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it's actually super easy, if you don't over pack the "ghost" then the twist stays in tact, and it goes right down. i only needed 3 ghosts to get 20 grams down. i then added 1/4 tab=125ug of 25i and everything is amazing. full spectrum
 
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#7 Posted : 4/16/2013 3:12:57 AM

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behindthelight wrote:
DeDao wrote:
Drink the tea. There is a ceremonial feel to it in my opinion.


I wish I could man, I really, really do. I just don't think I can.

I made a tea out of 2 feet of bridgesii about a year ago and I reduced it down to about a cup. Then when I took my first tiny sip I went into shock. I couldn't believe how bad it was.

I ended up evaping it down to a resin and eating that.


I have read that the tea is definitely the best way, not to mention it is the easiest also. I just remember telling myself that there is no way I could ever get that tea down. I think I need to try it again though because I would love the ability to swallow cactus tea.


With revelation, comes pain. I recommend drinking the tea. If you purge then you purge. You can drink the tea. Taste it. It won't bite.
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#8 Posted : 4/16/2013 3:19:42 AM

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what surprises me pretty much every time is that there are people willing to eat toilet paper!

Whats so bad about limo? I never did a mescaline extraction but its pretty damn easy to work with limo for DMT extractions..I cant imagine why its any different for cacti extraction. Are you trying to evaporate the limo or something? Just salt it.

Or jsut reduce it all down to a shot and shoot it. It's not really that hard. Just biiter.
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#9 Posted : 4/16/2013 4:06:52 AM
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#11 Posted : 4/16/2013 4:33:38 AM

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behindthelight wrote:
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what surprises me pretty much every time is that there are people willing to eat toilet paper!

Whats so bad about limo? I never did a mescaline extraction but its pretty damn easy to work with limo for DMT extractions..I cant imagine why its any different for cacti extraction. Are you trying to evaporate the limo or something? Just salt it.

Or jsut reduce it all down to a shot and shoot it. It's not really that hard. Just biiter.



Well, there is a part of the tek where you have to press the cacti sludge to get out all of the d-limo and it sucked really, really, really bad.

Yeah, I keep hearing to reduce down to a shot. I think I will try that. I reduced it down to a cup last time and tried "drinking" it....bad idea.


I have had that problem with mimosa before also where it was hard to get all the limo out. I dont know how cacti would work but I personally like to evaporate my acid tea down to a resin..then add base to it and make a paste and dry it down..usually if you add enough lime or sodium carb once dry you can grind it to a fine powder..then I pull with the limo or veg oil. Maybe the same can be done with cacti but I wont say for sure till I try it.
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#12 Posted : 4/16/2013 6:09:43 AM

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It sounds to me like your beef is not with the limonene, but that tek in general.

I have had a very successful extraction doing the following:
Make tea,
reduce,
basify with NaOH,
pull with xylene (limo would work here),
salt out with HCl,
dry,
trip.

Pretty simple, and I've pulled now 1.5 grams of mescaline from 750 grams of fresh cactus.

I do like the tea, but after way overdoing it, I prefer the extract. I wanted about a level 3-4, and got a level 50. So, I like knowing what I'm getting, and the cactus seems quite variable. I'll extract unknown cactus, and leave my own cultivated and previously tested cacti for tea.
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#13 Posted : 4/16/2013 8:22:54 AM
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#14 Posted : 4/16/2013 8:43:36 AM

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jamie wrote:
what surprises me pretty much every time is that there are people willing to eat toilet paper!


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#15 Posted : 4/16/2013 8:45:33 AM

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Mr.Peabody wrote:
It sounds to me like your beef is not with the limonene, but that tek in general.

I have had a very successful extraction doing the following:
Make tea,
reduce,
basify with NaOH,
pull with xylene (limo would work here),
salt out with HCl,
dry,
trip.

Pretty simple, and I've pulled now 1.5 grams of mescaline from 750 grams of fresh cactus.

I do like the tea, but after way overdoing it, I prefer the extract. I wanted about a level 3-4, and got a level 50. So, I like knowing what I'm getting, and the cactus seems quite variable. I'll extract unknown cactus, and leave my own cultivated and previously tested cacti for tea.


This is what I do too. I salt with acetic acid though. Maybe I should bust out the hcl. Mine is 12 molar though. I'm kinda scared to work with it.
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#16 Posted : 4/16/2013 12:55:24 PM
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behindthelight wrote:
DeDao wrote:
Drink the tea. There is a ceremonial feel to it in my opinion.


I wish I could man, I really, really do. I just don't think I can.

I made a tea out of 2 feet of bridgesii about a year ago and I reduced it down to about a cup. Then when I took my first tiny sip I went into shock. I couldn't believe how bad it was.

I ended up evaping it down to a resin and eating that.


I have read that the tea is definitely the best way, not to mention it is the easiest also. I just remember telling myself that there is no way I could ever get that tea down. I think I need to try it again though because I would love the ability to swallow cactus tea.

How'd you make it? I think whole chunks slow-simmered is the best way. I imagine boiling powder would leave you with elephant snot.

Either way: drink the tea, embrace the taste, thank your ancestors.
 
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#17 Posted : 4/16/2013 2:50:05 PM

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Yes, using whole chunks that have not been smashed or pulverized is best. It leaves you with a thinner drink, making it easier going down. Search the nexus, you will find sufficient tea recipes. They are very simple.
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#18 Posted : 4/16/2013 3:33:28 PM

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behindthelight wrote:
Mr.Peabody wrote:
It sounds to me like your beef is not with the limonene, but that tek in general.

I have had a very successful extraction doing the following:
Make tea,
reduce,
basify with NaOH,
pull with xylene (limo would work here),
salt out with HCl,
dry,
trip.

Pretty simple, and I've pulled now 1.5 grams of mescaline from 750 grams of fresh cactus.

I do like the tea, but after way overdoing it, I prefer the extract. I wanted about a level 3-4, and got a level 50. So, I like knowing what I'm getting, and the cactus seems quite variable. I'll extract unknown cactus, and leave my own cultivated and previously tested cacti for tea.


Seems pretty easy. Explain the "salt out" part though please.

So you add some HCL to your xylene and then what do you do?


separate out the bottom layer (the aqueous layer), and evaporate it.
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behindthelight wrote:


Seems pretty easy. Explain the "salt out" part though please.

So you add some HCL to your xylene and then what do you do?


I follow a tek phlux made (if you search "phlux mescaline dmt nexus" on google you should find plenty). If you find his write ups, he has a lot of good stuff. Salting out is basically extracting from the NP solvent. You pull the solvent out of your main container with the cactus gunk, put it in a separate container. I use 10 molar (or 33%) HCL. Take five drops of HCl, add it to about 150-200 ml of water, add that water to the NP solvent, shake around for a while, remove the water layer, dry the water out, and you've got mescaline.

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This is what I do too. I salt with acetic acid though. Maybe I should bust out the hcl. Mine is 12 molar though. I'm kinda scared to work with it.


No reason to be scared! Just be careful. Since you need so little for each salting out step, put some aside in a small container, maybe 100 ml max. This should last you a while, and it's easy to handle. Always wear gloves, and goggles! I use a little glass medicine dropper when I'm getting my few drops to salt out. It works wonderfully. Plus, I hear mescaline acetate is gooey and hard to work with, whereas mescaline HCl is pretty easy. The only thing is, after a while it will turn gooey from water in the air, so it's best stored in a desiccant chamber.
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Definitely make sure to properly dilute the acid in the salting phase. Even vinegar off the shelf is too concentrated and pulls a lot of inactive brown crud.
 
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