Can anyone assist me in adapting this tek in this link http://chemicalrecipes.blogspot.com/

to make it work for phalaris grasses factoring in the removal of gramine and hordenine.

this tek already looks like it would handle phalaris pretty well.

if you want you can use limonene for your oil, and do your pulls at room temp (presumably veg. oil acts approximately the same as limo, but it has not been directly tested).
it doesn't eliminate the gramine, but it greatly reduces it.

also i would highly recommend lime (calcium hydroxide, not calcium carbonate as stated in tek) over washing soda.
you could very easily use this tek as is for phalaris, but i would recommend reading over hippie salad oil & q21q21 vinegar/lime tek as well(they are both essentially a very similar process), just to get a feel for what you are trying to accomplish from a couple different perspectives.

Actually something just occured to me. In order to get pure dmt no gramine, couldnt you just take the crystals, redisolve them in a solvent, and then do a fractional or vacuum distillation? Because dmt has a lower boiling point than gramine. So wouldnt it seperate under a vacuum distillation?

at that point you could just do a re-x with hexane/naphtha (gramine is insoluble, so it wouldn't be dissolved in the solvent in the first place), which would probably be easier.

but really you would have most likely have negligible amounts of it in your extract prior to re-x.

When you say re-x you are referring to recrystallization correct? Sorry i am new and am getting used to the nexus lingo lol

unless you have a high alkaloid arundinacea clone with cleanish DMT profile, brachystahcys or aquatica you are going to have to remove a hell of a lot more than just gramine and hordenine from your extract to get anything close to pure DMT..and I mean like alkaloids that are present in higher levels than DMT often so these dont just "color" the experience..they dominate it.

Just saying, cus a lot of people seem to assume they can just extract from wild arundinacea and gramine or hordenine is gunna be the only problem.

Damn so when dealing with phalaris column chromatography is the only way to get pure dmt?

I really didn't want absolutely pure dmt i just didn't want any other active alkaloids, but apparently that's impossible with phalaris.

"but apparently that's impossible with phalaris."

Phalaris is a genus comprised of many species. It would help if people stopped referring to just "phalaris" and specified the species and strain. It certainly is not impossible to get relativly pure DMT extracts from some phalaris species and clones without column chromatography.

Phalaris arundinacea itself has one of the broadest chemotypes in the plant kingdom..which is why wild arundinacea is a wild card. Your essentially selecting multiple chemotypes in most cases and extracting all of it. Your gunna get different alkaloids. The turkey red strain as far as I know bread true though when pollinated by other turkey red clones..there is a whole lot of work that still needs to be done here. What was done in the 90's was a short little spurt of activity that tapered off when people got ahold of mimosa.

Meh skrew it, swim will just run a column chromotography.