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blueskiesbri
#1 Posted : 4/13/2013 4:20:37 AM
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Hello there everyone.

This might be a stretch to put this particular post in the Music/Art/Literature section, but movies are considered art, so here goes.

I was wondering if you have seen this movie. I did a quick search on the forum and there were a couple of people who mentioned it, but mostly because they were linking to a particular scene in the movie where the main character has a DMT trip.

I just wanted to know what you thought about this movie. It was just under 3 hours in length, and man, I have to say, a very wild ride. I won't spoil it for anyone who wants to see it, but I will just say that the cinematography was pretty brilliant. I loved the camera angles, and how the whole thing was made, but I kept wondering if mainstream people saw this movie, they would just chalk it up to another "druggie movie". Do you think this type of movie gives "us" psychonauts a bad name, because I feel like I do not fit into the stereotype this movie portrays. I'm in it all for the learning of my own mind. I love my brain too much!

What say you?
 

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#2 Posted : 4/13/2013 4:54:38 AM



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Yea theres been quite a few discussions on this here over the past few years. At first i was enjoying it..i think i was just so excited to finally be watching a movie about dmt...But there was a lot i just didn't enjoy at all. I get pulled into movies easily but the solid hour of him floating through walls over and over was very repetitive and boring. It also didn't seem like it would paint dmt in a very positive light to people who are unfamiliar with it either. For some, i can just see it reinforcing stereotypical notions of drug users



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#3 Posted : 4/13/2013 6:36:42 AM

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I don't see it as a "druggie movie" at all. It's more about death and reincarnation, spirituality. About second chances.

I enjoyed it. The cinematography was brilliant (I love that POV style) It reminded me of Strange Days at first, although that's a much different movie, it has some of the same first person view cinematography.
 
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#4 Posted : 4/13/2013 6:42:46 AM

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I freaking hated that movie. Some people love it though. Guess it just wasnt my thing. I didnt even watch the last 20 minutes or so.
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#5 Posted : 4/13/2013 6:48:41 AM
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Yeah, aside from the imagery and camera shots, you guys nailed it. Kinda long and boring. Well good then....I feel validated that is not the type of people we are! Snobbish? I hope it doesn't come across like that. I've said this before, I believe in my intro essay, that my life is an open book. My family and closest friends know who I am, and I feel confident in knowing they do not see me in this light.

Have a great weekend, everyone!

 
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#6 Posted : 4/13/2013 7:00:22 AM

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jamie wrote:
I didnt even watch the last 20 minutes or so.

Maybe seeing the end would change your opinion somewhat Smile

I watched the first half of the movie twice without finishing it...I kept falling asleep because I was trying to watch it at night after work. When I finally sat down and watched the whole thing during the day, I enjoyed it. The ending is very positive and hopeful.
 
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#7 Posted : 4/13/2013 7:24:42 AM

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I thought the visual effects during the trip section were good but didn't accurately represent DMT, but what could? As a film it was okay. Like other Gasper Noe work it was pretty extreme and over the top.
 
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#8 Posted : 4/13/2013 10:37:28 AM

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very boring movie ,
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#9 Posted : 4/13/2013 1:09:47 PM

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We had a decent world, maybe some mad cow disease, nukes, aids, wars whatever, but overall, not so bad. Then some guy made that hateful, wretched, steaming pile of a movie and now we are all that much poorer for it.

Terrible, terrible movie, I shall speak of it no more!
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#10 Posted : 4/13/2013 4:37:02 PM
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All that potentional to make a great DMT-oriented movie and it turns out with a protagonist who repeats over and over to himself "I am not a junkie", meanwhile he seems to take whatever drug he gets his hands on. All that violence, prostitution, drug dealing, loathing and oh, DMT.

The director Gaspar Noé said that after the opening show people came up to him afterwards and said things like "Wow, those hallucinations/effects looked just like DMT!" What kind of DMT have these people actually smoked? I mean yeah they looked pretty and all, but they hardly reminded me of DMT. Where were all the impossible shapes, the rooms, the beings? All they showed was just some nice morphing colors, like a common screensaver.

For its originality I give it 2/5.
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#11 Posted : 4/13/2013 6:36:29 PM

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The visuals reminded me more of an ayahuasca experience than smoked DMT. IIRC Noe had never freebased DMT before the movie but had drank ayahuasca, which would explain the design of the visual effects. Instead of spinning rainbow crystalline shards and curious alien elves you get slowly morphing 3-dimensional organic matter.
 
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#12 Posted : 4/13/2013 8:25:43 PM

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visuals didnt resemble DMT or ayahuasca IMO.

Blueberry/renegade did it 100% better..the trip scene in taking woodstock was pretty awesome too for trying to capture an acid trip.
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#13 Posted : 4/13/2013 10:07:50 PM

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jamie wrote:
Blueberry/renegade did it 100% better..


Blueberry was disappointing for many, but the director, Jan Kounen, knew the subject well. His "Other worlds" 2004 documentary remains one of the best films about ayahuasca around.

And as for EtV, besides the accuracy or not of the (remarkable) 3D visuals recreation, I think it was a great achievement. Noé has balls and that is out of the question. Whether the film is enjoyed by some and not at all by others is in the very nature of the proposal... and I don't think it ever intended to be entertaining, so qualifying it as boring sounds slightly off to me. Many films by Bergman or Tarkovski will undoubtedly be called "boring" by many, and that does not change their status as film masterpieces.

EtV is a visual feast, a different film experience and a tremendous exercise on subjectivity and point of view. To me, it's in a similar league as Linklater's Waking Life, or 2001... It's an experience, mind and eye candy, it's unique, and as someone who tries to make a living in film making, I see it as a truly impressive work.
 
 
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