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#1 Posted : 4/3/2013 6:41:47 PM

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Hi everyone Big grin

For as much as I've tripped, I've never snorted anything because it intuitively feels unwise with my personal sinus situation. However, I'm writing a current fiction piece where I think the story might flow best if a certain character insufflates a little bit of DMT. Thumbs up

I was wondering if anyone with experience could outline the general flow of coming up, peaking, and coming down, in comparison to smoked or oral DMT. It would be especially helpful to note body sensations and roughly when they occur, e.g., T + 5 minutes, T + 1hr, etc.

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#2 Posted : 4/3/2013 7:58:46 PM

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first your sinus cavity burns and often it goes all way to the back of the neck at the base of the skull..then the eyes water and it drips a bit into the back of the throat at times..this goes on as you sit there with your head back to stop your nose from dripping out and slowly the tryptamine effects come on over the next few minutes building to a peak within like 10 minutes..by that point there is only a tingling sensation not really pain..drinking some juice and blowing your nose basically makes that go away for me..then you lay back as it takes over..peaks for 20 minutes or so..then slowly fades and is over at about the 60 minute mark unless you took a substancial does of beta carbolines.

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#3 Posted : 4/3/2013 8:51:45 PM

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my friend railed a line of 50mg freebase, it lasted about 45 min but the burn extended until the next morning. He said it was like a strong lsd trip during that time.

Also he said the burn was the most excruciating he ever felt from anything before.

Definitely try it in a salt form rather
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#4 Posted : 4/21/2013 6:34:21 AM

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I'm curious to know if DMT-Citrate would be readily insufflated, and if it would burn less than freebase. Anyone with experience know this?

And to the OP as other(s) said its about an hour long comes on quick within 5 mins but burns like hell and can leave you with a somewhat raw throat as well, so as another poster said about 10-15 mins in blow your nose also dosing slowly kinda helps, you won't breakthrough necessarily, but its less pain and I still get visuals just cut out a line of like 100mg and slowly dab your finger into it for like 15-25 mg bumps and just keep putting your finger to nose and sniffing every few mins, also use both nostrils! Massage nostrils a lot also it seems holding a cucumber under my nose (currently) helps to sort the burn a bit I know its good for when eating spicy foods but I had an idea I may try making some like extract or dried cucumber to see if it reduces alkali burn if snorted anyone see any harm in snorting dried cucumber? We do it with beans and seeds like yopo so why not a dried vegetable?
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#5 Posted : 4/21/2013 9:50:11 AM

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So for anyone willing to try I just dried some cucumber slices in my over at around 200-250 deg and powdered them finely when dry to try snorting with some freebase DMT, I know sounds silly but I swear it seems to reduce the burn, not trying to add inert ingredients to a already massive amount to snort but, the idea was on an impulse knowing that cucumbers help solve an issue with peppers being too hot my nose is freebased out for tonight but for any other willing contenders step up to the plate. It was not to terrible but research is still needed.
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#6 Posted : 6/26/2013 8:01:19 PM

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Hey Guys!

SWIM has just finished a final wash of some DMT-Fumarate and has offered me some to try when it is dry. He got the idea from The DMT Handbook and decided to make some and see what it's about. When he gives me some in the next couple days, I will definitely write a trip report here if you like? The plan is to start with 100mg of fumarate and then see from there if the dosage needs to be tweeked some more...

I am hoping it will be be less shocking than smoking the stuff, with more time to learn and interact while in hyperspace.

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#7 Posted : 6/26/2013 9:26:18 PM

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100mg sounds like a lot..for me anyway. I would start with no more than 50..even that is higher than I ever went.
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#8 Posted : 6/26/2013 10:21:25 PM

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I never though anything would feel worse than insufflating 2-cb until I snorted a mere 15mg of dmt (freebase, D'oh) as a test, prior to potential for taking a bigger line.

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#9 Posted : 6/27/2013 1:35:22 AM
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I imagine that freebase would hurt like hell, traces of solvents notwithstanding.

Anyone have fumarate experiences to share? I know the consensus is that it's not the way to go, but I'm still curious.
 
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#10 Posted : 6/27/2013 8:34:49 AM

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#11 Posted : 7/4/2013 8:39:23 PM

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So here goes:

Used 50mg of DMT Fumarate. Was a threshold experience. burned a little, but nowhere near any other stuff I've put up there in the past. Didn't taste too bad either. bit salty and my throat burned a bit too.

Closed eye visuals only at 50mg and slight brightening and perception visual change after 10 minutes. 20 minutes, colourful closed eye visuals. Very light.

I won't be wasting time on 50 again. 100 minimum dose and take it from there.

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