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#41 Posted : 4/2/2013 6:59:49 PM

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So little common knowledge, and, after reading, learning that there weren't any common negative side effects for me to fear. They have called it the Spirit Molecule, the strongest of all hallucinogens. I hadn't tried any psychedelics up until DMT.

For me it was an interest in the unknown, so I decided "Go big or go home.. Where can I get some of this?"

The rest is all space exploration Big grin
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#42 Posted : 4/3/2013 11:58:05 AM
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You know, I can't remember the first time I heard about dmt. Although now days, still having only tried a weak cone of changa, it's partly just wanting to understand what it's all about. Whether or not I decide to keep trying it after my first experience (experiences) will depend on whether or not it's a good experience and if I feel it could help me spiritually and help me gain insight into myself.

Peoples descriptions, art work, documentaries have all made me very curious.

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#43 Posted : 4/3/2013 6:30:10 PM

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voyaj wrote:
DMT was very alluring.

One day about a decade ago I was super depressed, I broke up with a girlfriend of almost a decade and was moving out.
Something came over me to pray, something I never did, something I did not believe in, still do not. And WHAM, it was as though I was about to fly right through the universe, my hands trembled and I was locked into a trance. For hours it were as though I was having a natural psychedelic experience. I wondered why? The why led to finding information on DMT. I thought at the time it was due to DMT being released under stress in a meditative state? I have no idea and still do not.

Then I had other questions. What if I put a gun to my head and pulled the trigger, would it really have no consequence? The near death, afterlife scenario people were describing seemed interesting, but I was not going to believe what other people had to say about it. I HAD TO KNOW.

LOL. Shocked Shocked Crying or very sad Big grin

I was a very devout and spiritual Catholic convert. Fasting as a form of prayer led me to the church. I have fasted for 3-7 days and through deep pray, I encountered visions. I think you are spot on about the release of DMT .
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#44 Posted : 4/3/2013 11:23:50 PM

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We are all unique. A point that I did not make is that, no. DMT was not like the natural experience I had had.
It may have had some impact but the natural experience was far less visual, far less severe.
I think it may have a role but what I found out is that I was wrong. DMT is nothing like
a natural spiritual/psychedelic experience because taking DMT is taking something.
DMT is something else. I personally find it to be spiritual, whatever that means,
but nothing like just having an organically strange experience.

But, I did find DMT and I LOVE it. I have never believed in miracles
but DMT is the closest I have ever seen proof of one. It can change your life
but at the end of the day, even as profound as it is. It is still not what a church
would have you believe a miracle is. But, that is just semantics.
I do not believe in magical miracles, but in the real world, I think DMT
is as close as we can truly grasp something beyond our normal reach.
Does not matter to me that it is just the brain. It reveals
a very mysterious aspect of our physiology for a short time and that
is important. The possibilities are truly endless. Just not in our time.

DMT should be studied in depth.

brokensproket wrote:

I was a very devout and spiritual Catholic convert. Fasting as a form of prayer led me to the church. I have fasted for 3-7 days and through deep pray, I encountered visions. I think you are spot on about the release of DMT .

 
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#45 Posted : 4/4/2013 1:31:47 AM

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Big grin > I had heard about and wanted to try DMT for many years and in the mid 1990's
I began reading books by Jim Dekorne ( Psychedelic Shamanism ) Jonathan Ott ( Pharmacotheon ) Terence McKenna & several articles in psychedelic Illuminations magazine, including one by Rick Strassman & especially notes from the underground by Gracie & Zarkov.

> But what really made me decide was an article in Psychedelic monographs and essay's #6 by Peter Meyer in which he stated... "It is now possible, by the use of psychedelic tryptamines, to venture into the death state before we die and accustom ourselves to that state. At death, when the transition is finally & irrevocably made, the psychedelic explorer will enter a realm he or she knows from previous experience and will, hopefully, not be swept away by fear & ignorance."

> Of course, like many of you I was hoping to gain clues to some of the mysteries of our Human existence ie. How is consciousness ( Me-ness ) hooked to the physical world?

> What happens to this "Me-ness" when this body I am wearing stops, dies, decays and the worms eat it?

Wut? Let Us Speculate;

> Science is already fairly sure that your Intellect is relatively independent from the specific matter in which it resides. The Important thing to recognize is that the Information content that makes up ones Intellect is in the Patterns: Patterns in molecules & Patterns in the inter-cellular nerve connections.

> It is the Patterns, not the cells, that form your Intellect. The Patterns would be the same if all the cells and atoms have been replaced by other equivalent cells and atoms!

> Einsteins Theory of Gravity proves physical things like matter effect Ethereal things
like space and time, and the space and time in turn effect the motion of matter.
If matter has Patterns in it, the Patterns will in turn be impressed on space and time.
We know this is true for large bodies like stars and planets.
Is it equally true for small bodies like atoms? We don't know, because there is
yet no complete theory of quantum mechanics or quantum space-time.

> Could it be that these atoms and molecules that contain our Intellect Impress
their Pattern into the space-time matrix? If so, then we would have the Pattern that is our Intellect impressed not only on an material object such as the nerve cells in our brain, but also on an Ethereal object such as the space-time in which we live.
( Shades of the human soul!).

> The awareness and influence of the Intellect Pattern would be strongest in the immediate space-time region where the material particles of the nerve cells exist, but it's awareness and influence could extend into the time around us. Theoretically, this could be all the way to Eternity!

> However, I would suspect that as the time interval gets farther and farther away from the
period of time where the matter ( the brain ) generating the pattern exists,
the influence would become weaker and merge into other Patterns in the space-time matrix.
( Shades of the Force! )

> This Speculation is far from presently known, hard, scientific fact. But that only indicates our lack of knowledge about the true nature of Intelligence & microscopic space-time interactions!

> So maybe some day, rather than denying the existence of the Spirit as "unscientific nonsense,"science will prove that the Spirit does have a "physical" reality & that there is Life After Death!!!
"It is only when we step away from the actual & begin to explore the Possible that life's infinities begin to reveal themselves to us."
- James Kent.
 
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#46 Posted : 4/6/2013 1:54:46 PM

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For me, there were several reasons I became interested in DMT. Like many others on this thred I have a long history of phycidellic use and enjoyment. When first reading about DMT years ago on Erowid it sounded way too out there and frightening. Years later however, after hearing the effects described in detail. I became very interested again. I like the exploration aspect of DMT, braving the unknown, and experiencing new avenues in life. My wife had a baby girl 2 years ago. This raised ideas in me regarding what to tell her about death and religion when she becomes older. Although I was raised catholic, I have long since moved past religion. I was agnostic for some time. With the thought that there may be a way to feel a piece of a possible afterlife through DMT, I feel the need to see for myself. Also the excitement, and the process of learning a new hobby (extraction) appeal to me.
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#47 Posted : 4/7/2013 5:02:39 AM
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After becoming interested in psychedelics I read about DMT on a swedish forum where people's experiences of it sounded completely amazing. The way they described it and compared it to other substances such as LSD (not that LSD isn't completely amazing as well) made me long for it. The potential spiritual side of it was extremely intriguing, even more so since I had recently had my first sober, self-induced out-of-body-experience AKA astral projection experience and I was set to explorer mode. I got my hands on Rick's The Spirit Molecule which was the final straw, I HAD TO taste N,N-DMT.

Thus I suddenly found myself lying on my bed, 19 years old, 2 years after being introduced to Cannabis, with approximately 25 mg of said substance loaded in my glass pipe and a lighter vaporizing it into my body. What followed was my first psychedelic and hallucinogenic experience, and I was terrified, ecstatic, mindblown and grateful. I feel in love with it from that night and I knew that I had found what couldn't be anything less than a lifelong ally. It still is the substance I cherish most. The illegality of it is hilarious.
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#48 Posted : 4/14/2013 6:22:24 AM
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I have been a huge fan of psychedelics since I was a teen. Altered states of consciousness and the effects of hallucinogenic compounds on perception have always been fascinating. That fascination grew exponentially in University as I began taking philosophy, religion and especially psychology courses (psych was my major)
I distinctly remember the first time I heard of DMT. I had just moved from a relatively small city on the prairies of Canada to Vancouver. I had just had my first beautiful experience with MDMA and had purchased a book on the substance from a shop in downtown Vancouver. I was standing at a red light and a guy noticed the book. He made a comment to the effect of "you like X? Ever tried DMT?" Having never heard of it I replied "what's that" He told me what I am sure many in this community were told, that it was the most powerful hallucinogen on the planet, with other hallucinogens paling in comparison. He described smoking it and said by the time you have exhaled you will have stepped into another dimension. Within the few brief moments we spoke at that red light and as we crossed the street he was able to convey that his description of a DMT experience was in no way an exaggeration, what you saw and where you went was like nothing you could imagine and was experienced as being as real as what I was experiencing at that moment talking to him. Then he asked me if I had any MDMA, I replied no and he said ok well take it easy and off he went.
I had done LSD and mushrooms extensively, very large doses of LSD (albeit poor quality LSD but being a small town prairie boy of limited experience I didn't realize how powerful quality LSD could be) and decent doses of mushrooms (I have never in my life done more than 3-4 grams in a single dose as the peak of mushrooms has always been...uncomfortable) and prior to first using either had been told how powerful they were and all kinds of BS about what people had hallucinated with the exaggerated descriptions of my young peers more akin to descriptions of DMT yet my own experiences disappointing in comparison to say the least.
But for some reason I believed without a doubt what that stranger had told me in a two minute conversation. In the months that followed I made inquiries with every person in Vancouver that I knew or met about DMT, none had tried it and few had heard of it. Despite the fact I had no other information on DMT (this was pretty much per Internet) DMT was immediately placed on my bucket list. Years and years went by and it was only a few short years ago I crossed it off my list with numerous experiences since. That strangers description was pretty much dead on and my experiences have only deepend my fascination relating to perception and consciousness.
That story aside I am truely sorry for the loss of your mother OP. I lost mine what seems like a life time ago and at the same time like it was yesterday. She was my best friend and confidant. Not unlike yourself I didn't dream of her for the first few years after her passing. I often pondered why figuring if there was something beyond death surely she would contact me in dreams as we were so close. When I did eventually have dreams of her they were very infrequent and she would never and even to this day has never spoken in a dream. I have no idea why that has been the case. I wish I could say DMT facilitated contact for me or answered questions about existence or the continuation of the spirit after the death of the body, but for me at least, no such realization or contact with her has occurred. I can say my experiences with DMT have opened me up to extraordinary possibilities and for me at least has me contemplating extraordinary possibilities and has me entertaining the possibility that maybe, just maybe those realms experienced on DMT are not just creations of my mind but a separate reality, and if that is the case, maybe my mother and al those we have lost continue on in one of those realms as well. I only wish I had been given the chance to tell her of my DMT experiences before she passed and had an opportunity to offer her the experience as well.
Good luck in your journeys, I hope you find answers but more than likely there will only be more questions.
 
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#49 Posted : 4/14/2013 11:10:41 AM

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I actually do not recall any moment of "enlightenment" when I said to myself: I want to try DMT. I've been interested in hallucinogens since I was 12. (worth mentioning: back then I didnt even fully understand what alcohol did to people. What was the message in that? Curiosity over LSD instead of what everyone else was curious about; I still wonder today)

But I acquired some ayahuasca some 6 years ago. Always had a deep respect for it and even today I still haven't touched it. I came to the conclusion some months ago that I need to go with something more short-lasting than drinking such a brew so the natural choice was to smoke DMT.

I can not identify any particular point in time when I started feeling this attraction to DMT: it just came around. And even though I haven't had a breakthrough yet I really like what I've seen so far of the DMT high.
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#50 Posted : 4/14/2013 9:16:21 PM

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Hello fatdan, I'm fairly new to the nexus but i consider myself a Psychonaut, well experienced in the psychedelic scene but the best mindset is to accept the fact you don't Know and that's the beginning to know. That's one of the best features about psychedelics is that no matter how much you think you know there's always more to know so i guess what I'm getting at is that were all in a sense Novices. Anyways but to the post, I've had similar experiences I was 19 when my father died of cancer and I've never expected to have a experience of contact but on a powerful mushroom journey,this was after my first DMT Experience, i had the feeling he actually merged into my body. Like he was showing me his mindset and perspectives on life it was a great feeling like none other this thrusted me deeper into the unknown. Life after death really got me interested in DMT and after my first experience it kinda snowballed from there especially the fact you contact entities of all shapes and forms was another big one. I try to get in the spiritual mindset before i take any type of psychedelics it seems to give me the best results. In my opinion i believe enlightenment brings us to the sense of oneness and unite good or bad is just a duality and that's where i believe problems are created. I agree that DMT brings your true inner being to the surface and whether your ready for it or not its your choice to act on it and integrate it.
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#51 Posted : 4/15/2013 2:44:37 AM

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I almost feel like the opportunity builds itself up only to those who truly deserve the enlightenment.


i love when people say things like this... to answer your original question, and to sort of dispel the sentiment above, i offer this:

i came to want to do DMT because a dealer had some, at an exorbitant price, & he said it was the damndest thing i'd ever try in my life... & so i bought some... & he was right... the next day, i found this website & learned that dealers were not necessary anymore... good times, but it does not at all fall under the general hippy-dippy "dmt finds its way into your life when it chooses to" heading that is so popular...
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#52 Posted : 4/15/2013 3:47:16 AM

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#53 Posted : 4/15/2013 4:03:12 AM



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jk i found it on some random psychedelic forum and being already fascinated by psychedelics dmt was just the next obvious area of investigation. Its fascinating for countless reasons.



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#54 Posted : 4/16/2013 4:23:38 AM

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#55 Posted : 4/24/2013 4:27:00 AM

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For me it was a mixture of DMT The spirit Molecule and Terence Mckenna lectures...it spured on this fascination with psychedelics,consciousness,reality,sacred geometry,human history, some spirituality...it just eruptedSmile
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#56 Posted : 4/24/2013 9:41:44 PM

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This (an alternative version) is my ultimate destination, if it's even possible for me to ever have such an experience. I have to try to get there, I know that there can't be an alternative in the matter and it feels, partly, like what I was born to do. For that reason, DMT, Ayahuasca and Psilocybin Mushrooms are my big three, the substances I really want to learn to go deep on. I've not yet been nearly that indescribably high, I'm not claiming to know whether I'll ever even get that far either, but it is what led me to find out about and be intrigued by DMT.

It's not the only reason I take psychedelics, of course, but it is one of them. I want to learn how to cruise the higher psychedelic states with more ease, eventually. I'm certainly not there yet, but hearing about them inspire me greatly, and I have a long journey with lots of practice ahead of me.
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Dude, that blonde girl is a total DMT/10.
 
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#57 Posted : 4/25/2013 3:56:25 AM

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Wayy back in the day, I found DMT through erowid and had never heard of it. Reading more about it I learned it was actually within grasp by extracting plants and eventually obtained it. Ohh the days of oily yellow spice lol.Laughing
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#58 Posted : 4/25/2013 7:39:29 AM

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It was probably a result of listening to a lot of Shpongle and reading trip reports from smoked spice & ayahuasca. That all manifested years ago, it's just that I wasn't ready for DMT for quite some time, instead I stuck with mushrooms/acid/4-aco-dmt during the occasional weekend adventure through the mind. And quite frankly, I was fine with that, because there is some real value to those experiences when done properly.

Now as of lately, DMT seems to be only thing that interests me. The more-common psychedelics just don't interest me much anymore just because I feel like going back to them would be like trying to relive the past, and even weed/alcohol have kinda slipped off my radar due to the same reasons.

After watching the DMT documentary (and I'm reading the book currently), as well as reading through several fascinating trip reports and sort-of observing the long term effects of the people who I know have taken DMT, it's made me realize that DMT is the next step in my own progression. I'm still not honestly 100% sure that I truly want to try it, rather I feel like I have to.

And you know what they say, where focus goes, energy flows. Now all of a sudden I'm finding myself in near possession of some MHRB, and quite frankly the timing of it all just feels right. I know for fact that my future is going to be amazing, and I feel like DMT will be a powerful catalyst to help me focus on bringing that future into fruition.

Changing the world all starts with a dream, you don't just all of a sudden trip on the coffee table and change the world. One thing that psychedelics seem to have a knack for, is inspiring me to dream in a huge manner with great detail. And in my experience, the stronger the trip, the bigger the dream-building potential it has. As the dream gets bigger, the harder it is for me to be satisfied with sitting on my couch doing nothing and being average like the rest of the world, it's like there's a calling for me to get out there and do what I need to do.

That's what I want to bring back from the experience - an increased appreciation for everything I have, and more perspective on how the things I am capable of can change the world. The more I think about it, the more real it becomes to me, however I know that psychedelics tend to speed up the process by quite a bit. Changing the world all starts with changing my identity, which is a big part of what psychedelics have the power to assist with. Who I think I am, is exactly what I am. If I was Abraham Lincoln, I would end slavery in the United States. If I change my ego, I will inevitably change my actions, which will result in my surroundings being changed and people changing in accordance, and over the long run that ripple-effect will expand outwards to places that I'm not even aware of. The end result is a different world, the degree will simply match the size of the dream that started it all.

So uh, who here likes sports??
 
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#59 Posted : 4/26/2013 10:54:23 AM

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I have never tried dmt, but im waiting for the perfect setting and to have some experienced friends around me that will guide me, but im definitely looking forward to enjoying this wonderful compound, it is really intriguing.
 
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