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Kash
#1621 Posted : 2/21/2013 3:15:53 AM

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xx1182 wrote:
I followed this(Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek) tek, but when i pull the naptha into the glass it doesn't look white, but yellow(and also smells like naptha), is this ok?

Now is in the freezer waiting for tomorrow

If you did some reading, you would see that yellow naptha is normal in many circumstances.Thumbs up
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#1622 Posted : 2/21/2013 10:49:03 PM

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Flippo wrote:
I won't recommend the thing i bought.. It isn't airtight so when you suck the liquid up, it flows right out again


I was having this same problem when using seringes, bought this stuff (pipette pump + pipette) yesterday and it works fine. It seems to be made in germany so I guess you should be able to find it at stores too.

 
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#1623 Posted : 2/22/2013 1:04:47 AM
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Ok, here the deal:
I've done the Cybs tek, but
i have found something in the right end corner, what is that?


Also, when i scraped, i found some "Redish" sticky cristals, are those right?
 
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#1624 Posted : 2/25/2013 4:30:54 PM

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dimitrii wrote:
Help with STB extraction: Dark naptha pull

Hey guys, SIWM is fairly experienced, and is currently running an STB extraction using 1kg mhrb, 5gal water, 1.5kg NaOH. On his first pull, the mimosa mud was still hot from dumping in the lye, and the naptha pulled off a murky purple/red color. After letting it sit for a day, the murkiness settled to the bottom, and the naptha was pulled off of the top, resulting in a clear purple/red solution. Assuming some extra plant materials were pulled out, what can be done from here to separate out the fluffy white goodness from the plant crap?

Thanks in advance


In the FAQ section your question is answered. See 'My Solvent is Brown/Dark, what to do ?'
 
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#1625 Posted : 2/25/2013 4:37:17 PM

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Tamandua wrote:
Flippo wrote:
I won't recommend the thing i bought.. It isn't airtight so when you suck the liquid up, it flows right out again


I was having this same problem when using seringes, bought this stuff (pipette pump + pipette) yesterday and it works fine. It seems to be made in germany so I guess you should be able to find it at stores too.


I'm probably going to buy a volume pipette like This one for my next extraction. They are made of glass and you can get them up to 100ml. We used them at chemistry class at high school. You have to suck the liquid up the pipette. You can work really accurate with these things.
 
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#1626 Posted : 2/26/2013 3:41:41 AM
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What up guys. I have a question on Cybs tek, Step 8 says to pour out naptha into a jar or recycle it. Would fresh naptha be a better option for the next pull or will the recycled naptha do the same job? Thanks in advance.
 
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#1627 Posted : 2/27/2013 10:57:20 PM

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In the DMT Handbook there is a section about crystal growing. Here is suggested to put a coaster on the glass your about to grow the crystals in, put it in a cupboard and slowly let the solvent evaporate so nice big crystals are formed. This is exactly what SWIM did because SWIM thinks the crystals look really beautiful. Now after letting a few glasses slowly evaporate in his kitchen and hallway, he reads about the Naphtha fumes, and how you should NOT let this evaporate inside, and you should not breath this fumes. Hmm.. wouldn't have hurt to read this a bit earlier. Next time probably just keep it to freeze-precipitation.

 
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#1628 Posted : 2/27/2013 11:32:06 PM

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SWIM has read that fresh naphtha is preferred for a more pure product
 
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#1629 Posted : 2/28/2013 4:37:53 AM
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Flippo wrote:
In the DMT Handbook there is a section about crystal growing. Here is suggested to put a coaster on the glass your about to grow the crystals in, put it in a cupboard and slowly let the solvent evaporate so nice big crystals are formed. This is exactly what SWIM did because SWIM thinks the crystals look really beautiful. Now after letting a few glasses slowly evaporate in his kitchen and hallway, he reads about the Naphtha fumes, and how you should NOT let this evaporate inside, and you should not breath this fumes. Hmm.. wouldn't have hurt to read this a bit earlier. Next time probably just keep it to freeze-precipitation.



what do you mean by coaster?
 
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#1630 Posted : 2/28/2013 12:08:13 PM

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Hello, I'm preparing for my first extraction (another noob)
I'm really short on supplies Sad

#1
i ordered:
.100 g MHRB (powdered) from gaiana
.2 lb Sodium Hydroxide Food Grade Red Hot Devil Lye Caustic Soda Beads (amazon)
.Ph 1-14 Test Paper (amazon)

The big question is: can i use Zippo lighter fluid as non polar solvent? (naphta is a major problem to get my hands on)

I have no chemistry skills but still I understand the idea of what's going on by changing ph and moving DMT from one layer to another, BUT there's one point in Cyb's tek where he is salting the mix, what does the salt do?

and still i'm not shore which tek to do...


#2
I'm also waiting for 100 HBWR seeds. I have absolutely no chance of extracting LSA with all those solvents. Does anyone know any other ways?
Eating this seeds was a hard thing last time Sad didn't have any visuals and had such nausea that i didn't wanted to live any more Sad
 
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#1631 Posted : 2/28/2013 12:17:42 PM
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i have been told that zippo fluid is good to use as naphtha.
the salt helps make the dmt go into the naphtha.. something to do with ionic strength

and for morning glories, search through wiki.dmt-nexus.me for some teks, one of them requires only ISO which is farily easy to get. and heres a water extraction

i think someone else may post that can help you further

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wall-iko
#1632 Posted : 2/28/2013 5:42:26 PM

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#1 (DMT)
I do not remember exact posts but I'v seen some saying that Zippo fluid is ok and some saying that Zippo fluid has some oils that make crystallization process harder with lower amounts of product (and this is bad for me, I'll only have 100 g of MHRB powder).

#2 (LSA)
the link with tek shows a easy extraction method with peper mint (alcohol). is it ok to use psychedelics (LSA) with alcohol?
any suggestion how to neutralise nauseia?
do I need to take some MAOI-s to have a descent trip? if yes than which one is the easiest one to find?

P.S.
my goal is not to have a party, I am trying to break through conciseness and find my inner world and the "hiperspace"
I quit drinking coffee, eating meet, garlic and onions.
any other suggestions?
 
treeshakers
#1633 Posted : 3/4/2013 6:00:38 AM
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could i get some help? i have 33% hcl. i want to begin acid washing 500g ACRB. how much water should i be using for each wash and how much HCL?

i'm getting PH strips soon but does anyone have the numbers?

also, i don't understand that dilution equation C1V1 = C2V2 lol sorry

also bonus question: could sea salt be used for salting as per cybs tek
 
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#1634 Posted : 3/4/2013 6:24:30 PM

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What would be the best most efficient way to make a changa blend if you have B Caapi vine, Chaliponga leaf, Chacruna Leaf, Mimosa Powder and Syrian Rue? These are the items I have available and I'm looking for the best most efficient way to make a changa blend in the safest way without using any chemicals..
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#1635 Posted : 3/5/2013 2:22:13 AM

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Luke Skywalker wrote:
What would be the best most efficient way to make a changa blend if you have B Caapi vine, Chaliponga leaf, Chacruna Leaf, Mimosa Powder and Syrian Rue?

well idk about most efficient but i can tell you that i would do a crude extract on the caapi vine (brew a tea, fine it with an egg white, filter well and reduce then evap [can clean with alcohol after that - can also be basified])
the chaliponga and chacruna leaf can be added into the changa (chaliponga will add its own character from the 5-meo), but i would save most (if not all) of that for oral use (tea).

the mimosa powder is definitely worth extracting some jim-jam from if you have enough.
if not you can do a similar crude extract as the caapi, or make into a tea/CWE and drink as is (fining is recommended for tea.)

syrian rue i would definitely extract (no real need for a full-spectrum/crude extract).
i definitely recommend using a food-safe base, preferably lime (CaOH).
you can check the manske method, tao of rue extraction, and gibran's easy caapi alkaloid extraction on some good methods of extracting rue.

that should give you just about the most out of what you have.
but you have a lot of options, so feel free to play around and experiment. do what feels right.

if you want you could probably extract the chaliponga/chacruna (maybe you could do a 10x extract with alcohol or something as well).
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#1636 Posted : 3/5/2013 4:19:23 PM
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Hi everyone. Could do with a bit of help on the cyb tek. Ive done it once and it worked perfect. Im now doing it for the second time and it doesnt seem to be going to plan Sad.
Basically ive done everything the same as the 50g mhrb cyb tek only this time ive left it to basify over night then started the pulls. When i was pulling the first one it came out clear and not a milky. So something dosent seem right? hopefully someone can be of some help. PEACE
 
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#1637 Posted : 3/5/2013 7:06:15 PM
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Hi,

SWIM is doing his first-time extraction with Q21Q21's Tek 2.
He is using powdered MHRB, pure lime, regular white vinegar and Zippo fuel as naphtha.

He started with 100g bark and all went well, up to the pulls.
He mixed 100ml naphtha with the bark solution while warming it in a warm bath.
After 10min and periodically stirring, he tried pouring the naphtha off.

However, almost no naphtha came out...

He then tried using a coffee filter to filter it out.
This worked, but got him a brownish naphtha solution.
At one point, the filter even ripped and he had to start all over trying to filter it.
At the end, the pyrex pan had very little naphtha.

It is currently in the freezer and he will check tomorrow for any crystals.
Did he do anything wrong? Should he have used more naphtha?
Maybe he stirred too much?

Thanks in advance!
 
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#1638 Posted : 3/7/2013 11:27:43 PM

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hi,
Is it ok to use a stainless Steel Pot in an STB extraction ?
Any concerns ?
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#1639 Posted : 3/26/2013 7:26:12 PM

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InLaKesh wrote:
hi,
Is it ok to use a stainless Steel Pot in an STB extraction ?
Any concerns ?


I would recommend you to use a big glass bottle so you can close it with a cap so you dont get any Natriumhydroxid on you
when you shaking it.Just start with small amounts Natriumhydroxid and water so it doesnt get to hot. (make sure you do it right so it dont explode in your face)
Just make sure you have a robust bottle


razinlover wrote:
Hi,

SWIM is doing his first-time extraction with Q21Q21's Tek 2.
He is using powdered MHRB, pure lime, regular white vinegar and Zippo fuel as naphtha.

He started with 100g bark and all went well, up to the pulls.
He mixed 100ml naphtha with the bark solution while warming it in a warm bath.
After 10min and periodically stirring, he tried pouring the naphtha off.

However, almost no naphtha came out...

He then tried using a coffee filter to filter it out.
This worked, but got him a brownish naphtha solution.
At one point, the filter even ripped and he had to start all over trying to filter it.
At the end, the pyrex pan had very little naphtha.

It is currently in the freezer and he will check tomorrow for any crystals.
Did he do anything wrong? Should he have used more naphtha?
Maybe he stirred too much?



you must wait a while for the solution to stabalize so the dark solution makes the naphtha to come on top.
Try give it a little more time before separate the layers.
 
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#1640 Posted : 3/26/2013 10:11:38 PM
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Hi All!

Im using q21's tek for doing my first extraction. What happens is that I used sunflower oil instead of Limonene as solvent, and now I cant separate the residues of the basification step from the solvent for doing the salting step. The liquid wont get bifased be letting it rest sometime, but it seems like theres not much of lime into it. I tried to filter it with a cotton ball and coffe filters, also with an old t-shirt tissue, but I just got to get the lime with some bark outta the solvent. Can I do the salting anyway? If I cant, how am I supposed to extract the solvent from the bark and lime residues (if actually there are lime residues into it).

Thanks All!
 
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