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sc001
#1 Posted : 3/26/2013 9:21:30 AM
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Hey all,

just wondering if DMT gets detected by Urine or Oral drug tests for work?

If so how long does DMT stay in your system for as i understand its not something that sticks to your fat cells like marajuana.?

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#2 Posted : 3/26/2013 11:23:59 AM

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tryptamines are metabolized INCREDIBLY fast by the MAO enzymes (in fact, it is this very reason that DMT isn't orally active).

literally minutes after sobering up almost all the DMT is metabolized.

also to my knowledge there are no drug tests (least of all TLC) that detect tryptamines or its metabolites (if any exist, i am not very knowledgeable - but i would imagine most tryptamine metabolites are in your system already due to endogenous tryptamines).


you should be fine, even with mushrooms.. i believe ergolines may be safe as well.. i am not sure about phenethylamines
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#3 Posted : 3/26/2013 12:51:06 PM
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yes other people say what you say Big grin

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#4 Posted : 3/26/2013 2:10:02 PM

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this is why cops love to smoke DMT!
 
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#5 Posted : 3/26/2013 5:21:58 PM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
you should be fine, even with mushrooms.. i believe ergolines may be safe as well.. i am not sure about phenethylamines



Yes. I get drug tested once a week. All tryptamines will not show up in drug tests and only some phenethylamines (mescaline, 2c-X). The amphetamine based phenethylamines will sometimes cause a false positive.
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#6 Posted : 3/26/2013 5:28:37 PM

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"amphetamine based phenethylamines will sometimes cause a false positive." lol, false?
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#7 Posted : 3/26/2013 6:20:58 PM

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Actually this is true. MDMA will sometimes show up as methamphetamine. And MDA will show up as amphetamine.

Do some research buddy. Those are amphetamine based phenethylamines.
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#8 Posted : 3/26/2013 6:23:37 PM

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Maybe I should've been more clear on which chemicals exactly. This is a fact that MDMA and MDA can cause false positives for amphetamines because they metabolize into the same metabolites from what I understand.

What makes you think this is a false statement Sands of Time?
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#9 Posted : 3/26/2013 6:25:19 PM

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It cant exactly be called a false positive can it now?
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#10 Posted : 3/26/2013 6:28:24 PM

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It is a false positive because it shows up as something else. They still take it as a failed test.

Trust me, I've been through all of this except on probation.
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#11 Posted : 3/26/2013 6:31:44 PM

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Sounds to me like if mda is an amphetamine based phen, and you fail a drug test for amphetamine, what you have is a positive drug test for ameptamine, seeing as amphetamine is in the mda you took.

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#12 Posted : 3/26/2013 6:42:58 PM

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ntwhtyouknw wrote:
Sounds to me like if mda is an amphetamine based phen, and you fail a drug test for amphetamine, what you have is a positive drug test for ameptamine, seeing as amphetamine is in the mda you took.



It has only happened to me with MDMA. And there was no speed in it. Go do some research on the topic. MDMA/MDA will show up as amphetamines on a drug test. Pure MDMA/MDA. This has been proven.

What's with the skepticism. Do some research for Christ's sake and you will see that I'm right.
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#13 Posted : 3/26/2013 6:54:27 PM

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And quit being so sarcastic. There is an attitude that is maintained here, and I don't feel like you are sticking to that.

If you don't agree with me why not state it in a polite, logical way. Rather than being all smug and sarcastic. Acting like that really pushes my buttons and it is just plain rude. Is that how you talk to people all the time. In an extremely rude sarcastic tone like you are above everyone?
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#14 Posted : 3/26/2013 6:58:12 PM

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MDMA- 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methamphetamine will result in a positive drug screen for meth amphetamine, because in part, it is.

I'm saying this does not qualify as a false positive for meth because all MDMA is inherently part meth amphetamine.

So if you take it, then take a drug test, you will end up with a true positive for meth amphetamine. Most drug tests don't specify MDMA, but some do, either way a false positive is when something shows up in your system you haven't consumed.
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#15 Posted : 3/26/2013 6:59:28 PM

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How are you not being smug toward sands?
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#16 Posted : 3/26/2013 7:06:34 PM

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Well you can look at it as him being smug towards me.

This what his response.

Sands of Time wrote:
"amphetamine based phenethylamines will sometimes cause a false positive." lol, false?


Laugh out loud.
Why is there an immediate laughing like it is a joke. Why not ask me what I meant rather than acting rude like this in a sarcastic manor. That's how you were acting too.


I don't want to get angry over this. I'm already having a bad day. Sorry if I came off rather defensive or rude. I just feel that I was treated the same.
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#17 Posted : 3/26/2013 8:09:42 PM

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ntwhtyouknw wrote:
MDMA- 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methamphetamine will result in a positive drug screen for meth amphetamine, because in part, it is.

I'm saying this does not qualify as a false positive for meth because all MDMA is inherently part meth amphetamine.

So if you take it, then take a drug test, you will end up with a true positive for meth amphetamine. Most drug tests don't specify MDMA, but some do, either way a false positive is when something shows up in your system you haven't consumed.


I am saying that it IS a false positive. Because it IS NOT methamphetamine/amphetamine (it is MDMA/MDA) and it shows up as methamphetamine/amphetamine it IS a FALSE positive. It is not showing up as what it actually is.

The person doing the testing will think you did meth or speed because of the test and that isn't true.

Back to the original question. No, sc001, DMT will not show up. Neither will any tryptamine.

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Sorry for the angry posts. I am usually level headed, but I got defensive and kept posting.

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#18 Posted : 3/26/2013 8:14:43 PM

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Just because they are in the same class does not make them the same drug. One drug showing up as another drug on a drug test is a false positive.
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#19 Posted : 3/26/2013 11:29:16 PM

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wait.. so wat does the MA in MDMA stand for?
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#20 Posted : 3/27/2013 3:31:40 AM

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Methamphetamine.

But you didn't actually go and shoot up or smoke meth now did you? And it is going to show up that you did straight methamphetamine. It's not going to be distinguishable from 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methamphetamine. Which are two different drugs with completely different effects. Are the not?

I guess if you want to get technical you can say it is not a false positive because it "3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methamphetamine has meth in it." But when a drug test says that you did in fact do meth (not 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methamphetamine) when you didn't do meth and you DID do 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methamphetamine is that a false statement?
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