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ShepardsTONE
#1 Posted : 3/25/2013 12:58:59 AM
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Ive always been very curious about psychedelics but after hearing about DMT i am actually considering trying it. Some say it is something all people should try at least once; others say dont try it if youre not ready. I have read and heard multiple descriptions of people's trips and to be honest.... it sounds amazing. So now I joined this forum because i figured I could find some experienced DMT users that could lead me in the right direction. Here are my qustions:

1.)Should I try DMT
2.)Where do I get/ How do I make DMT
3.)Have any of you noticed any negative side effects (even if they are minuscule)
4.)Are there any bad trips on DMT?

 

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#2 Posted : 3/25/2013 1:59:17 AM

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Have you done any other psychedelics? And how did you like them?

The most important thing I think, for you to understand is people's trip reports and their actual experience are not even close to the complexity of effects that occur. I was like you, heard the cool trips and hyperspace and awesome fractals. But you may not realize that is all description of visual information. DMT has the same magnitude from visual effect as its physical sensation, it's auditory hallucinations, and it has a profound effect on you, or your brain. If you think you can actually handle the dissolution of every boundary you have lived by up to this point, then you are somewhat prepared. You also need to understand the idea of ego, and the loss of ego. Many people experience this loss as a death, your death. While logically everything you know thus far, would have you assume you've actually died, but the loss of ego is not the loss of life, or consciousness, or power. Be ready to part with the physical, for what feels like a year, but is only a few minutes.

This isn't meant to scare you, I encourage you to try it if you think you can handle this. I'm just giving a precaution to its power.
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#3 Posted : 3/25/2013 2:32:46 AM
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I'm sort of in the same boat. I did try my first extraction and it went not too well but I learned more than I could have ever by just sitti g on the sidelines. My advice would be to stick around here and learn and read as mucb as you can because only then Will you start to feel what your are really in for.

My first attempt at trying what I extracted was not even a low dose but it was enough for me to see how really powerful this compound is.

Just do not rush into it that is all I am saying
 
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#4 Posted : 3/25/2013 3:56:43 AM

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By the questions you're asking I would suggest A LOT more reading around the site. I researched for years before finally taking the steps to actually trying DMT myself. It's not something to be taken lightly.

That answers the first two questions, as for your last two:

The side effects might not be what you would typically think. They can be very pleasant, or horrific. The way your perceptions can be changed by this substance is very powerful and profound. Turning your whole life up to this point upside down could be a side effect. Seeing your relationships with other people as detrimental, when twenty minutes earlier you thought everything was fine, could be a side effect. To sum it up: this drug has the power to change everything about you, and leave you reeling, trying to hold on, not knowing what to do from that point forward.

Bad trips? DMT shows you both sides of the coin. Heaven and Hell. Be prepared to experience terror and joy, all in the same moment.

Am I trying to dissuade you? No. I just want you to do your homework.

Take some time to read more about it and see if you're still willing to take that plunge into the unknown.
 
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#5 Posted : 3/25/2013 4:09:30 AM
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No one can tell you that you should or should not do DMT. That is up to you and you alone.

All your other questions are easily answered here on the site.
 
#6 Posted : 3/25/2013 10:23:22 AM
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Dioxippus wrote:
By the questions you're asking I would suggest A LOT more reading around the site. I researched for years before finally taking the steps to actually trying DMT myself. It's not something to be taken lightly.

That answers the first two questions, as for your last two:

The side effects might not be what you would typically think. They can be very pleasant, or horrific. The way your perceptions can be changed by this substance is very powerful and profound. Turning your whole life up to this point upside down could be a side effect. Seeing your relationships with other people as detrimental, when twenty minutes earlier you thought everything was fine, could be a side effect. To sum it up: this drug has the power to change everything about you, and leave you reeling, trying to hold on, not knowing what to do from that point forward.

Bad trips? DMT shows you both sides of the coin. Heaven and Hell. Be prepared to experience terror and joy, all in the same moment.

Am I trying to dissuade you? No. I just want you to do your homework.

Take some time to read more about it and see if you're still willing to take that plunge into the unknown.


Dio summed it up for the most part. All I have to say is welcome to the nexus, and take the time to do the research.....READ READ READ. Then read some more. I promise you...if you invest the time to learn about the molecule, the experiences, how to extract and plant sources, etc....you will be handsomly rewarded in your efforts. This experience is serious business..



 
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#7 Posted : 3/25/2013 3:46:49 PM

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1) If you are curious about it, why not?

2) Extract yourself. There are various plants that cointain it and which can be used for extractions. Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark (MHRB), acacia species and psychotria viridis and several more. You will have to find a source that suits you on your own, since we do not talk about buying or selling these materials.

3) Physiological side-effects for after the experience: none that I know of. Physiological side-effects during the experience: teary eyes, yawning, tachicardia (quickened heart beat), and very rarely nausea and vomiting. The latter is really quite rare and IME mostly occurs when you smoked it the wrong way (i.e. burning it). When taken orally it's far more common but is seen by most as a process of purification and not as something negative.

Psychological side-effects after the experience: lots. Though I wouldn't really call them side-effects. It's kind of the reason we take it - it changes your view, your perspective, or at least it has the power to. It can bring up stuff your subconscious was hanging on to for a long time, it can put your beliefs into question, it can make you see things you didn't know where there (concerning relationships, your life's situation, etc.). It can also be quite traumatizing and leave you rattled and uneasy after a bad experience. Most here will tell you though that these experiences are actually very rewarding because they teach us lots of things we otherwise would never have found out about ourselves. Some people experience the feeling of absolute truth in an experience and become somewhat delusional / confused after this, but with a bit of integration and sound reasoning they usually end up learning from those experiences and overcome their delusions / confusions.

Psychological side-effects during the experience: you will go through emotions you probably never realized existed nor can be explained in any manner with our typical vocabulary. Emotions can be enhanced from extreme euphoria and the feeling of epiphanies to absolute terror.

It's an amazing substance and the good and the bad experiences are valuable if you are interested in personal development, spiritual development, psychological work, exploring your own mind or exploring unknown territories of consciousness / the universe.

4) Yes, bad trips exist with all psychedelics. Unlike what the media might want us to believe though, long lasting effects such as "becomming stuck in a bad trip forever", are myths. You might get scared during an experience but you come back down again from that.

Some things that are real dangers are: becoming traumatized from the experience and needing quite a while to recover mentally from it. In small amounts this can be a very positive experience when you finally come out of it, but can interfere with your funcioning in society should it be an extreme case. Granted, extreme cases of this are very rare. The more common is that it's like one of those bad nightmares that you end up thinking about for days until the haunting feeling leaves you.

Halucinogenic Persistant Perception Disorder: Some people report having long term visual side-effects after ingesting psychedelics. This is most common with LSD but it *can* happen with DMT an other psychedelics as well. There seems to be no conclusive studies concerning what causes this exactly and it's quite rare. Those that do report having it IME don't feel like it's an obstacle or something that bothers them. They report seeing very slight visual effects similar to low doses of psychedelics. Apparently some get these effects to a degree that it becomes bothersome to them, but I have never met anyone first hand who complained about this, so it seems to me to be a rather rare symptom, even with LSD users.

Also if you have a family history or personal history of mental illness psychedelics can trigger something that is referred to as a "schizophrenic break" - but this only seems to occur if there is a latent psychosis already present.

If you need any more information on anything specific, the Nexus community probably has most of the answers for you. Good luck and godspeed on your way.
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#8 Posted : 3/25/2013 6:18:41 PM
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Wow thanks for all of this information guys
 
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#9 Posted : 3/25/2013 8:27:23 PM

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If you are hesitant about doing it you can always wait a bit and do some more research until you are sure you're ready. You can never do enough research before trying something like this.
 
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#10 Posted : 3/27/2013 12:42:41 AM
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DMT destroyed every bit of sanity I thought I had.. Doesn't happen to everyone but just a warning
 
 
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