Anyone here have any tips for Astral Projecting?

Even though DMT has taught me to face my fears, that there is nothing to fear (easier said than done in both realms for me) for some reason once my body slowly begins slowing down and going numb and my consciousness begins to leave I end up mucking it by becoming afraid/conscious of it.

I have one successful attempt under my belt, but that too was frightening even though I was not focusing on fear. It felt like a vacuum that required more and more force until SHHLP, I was sucked out and it was very chaotic and fast. I only remember the end of it and it was me waking up with a dizziness that would not fade, my eyes were scrambled I thought permanently. It scared me so bad that I finally awoke in reality.

Any tips for getting out of there in a more controlled state?

You have to mess around with various techniques and rhythms until you find what works best for you.
The dreamviews forum is littered with methods, techniques, and tips. However they aren't really keen on the use of psychoactive substances.
I found that if I sleep for six hours, wake up, take a piss, and smoke some cannabis
that if I lay back down in my bed and relax
I can tune into a palpable vibration that rises
and IF I LOOK UP (eyes closed)
I leave my body.
This is the most consistent method that I have found that works for me over the years.

I have even experimented with looking up, then looking down, then looking up, and I was able to blast off, come back, and blast off right on cue. So there is definitely something to this simple biological process that is also depicted all over old hindu art.

Have fun experimenting. It's weird. And yeah, it can be very intense. After a while you get more used to it but when it happens out of nowhere it can be startling. When I feel it coming I just let go and explode. I mean- I literally know what it feels like to explode because of this.

It's funny you mention the vacuum. During my months long daily high dose harmala vaporizing test I found that every single night that would happen to me. Just like you described. The exact sound of something moving through a tube at high speeds getting sucked up and immediately blacking out into sleep and losing consciousness. It would happen a few times but it would wake me up from the intensity until I just let it do its thing and passed out.
A similar thing used to happen to me when I was a kid and also when I drink really hoppy beers and go to bed drunk...Hmm...

Interesting, thanks for sharing!

I know the feeling of looking up and looking through. Usually, my failed attempts at astral projection have begun with a technique similar, it is hard to describe. Something DMT might teach many people?

The vacuum was very much an infinite sucking, as in whatever I was was a line being pulled further and further, quite uncomfortable physically and mentally, heh, until the force of it ramped up so tremendously that it was like a slingshot. It was much more gradual than a big breakthrough where one second you are in the most unbelievably awesome mess and then the next second you are flying at the speed of light or simply plucked and put somewhere else. I know I can find it in myself to see it as enjoyable. I definitely get the sense that this may be more beneficial for me in the moment than another breakthrough, he he. Really want to get control of this somehow, see what is there and then maybe I will go all out again.


I have found the method you said works best for both LD/AP: Waking up early to give it a shot.

I will check out the dreamviews forum,

Thanks again!

Learning to induce it is the relatively easy part.
Then comes learning to deal with and even revel in the intensity.
Next comes the exploration... As for control I never got very far with that.
I mean it seems to act like some kind of consciousness randomizer
rather than the genie of our desires.
You will have to play around.

If you find yourself in a lucid dream state
practice not giving in to excitement.
Staying calm and collected ensures lucid longevity
both spiritually and physically.

I have definitely been able to induce lucid dreaming in the last 6 months,
which was the first time I smoked spice and this wonderful world opened up.
I am extremely excited about it... before spice I would never had imagined
this magnitude of possibility.

In the last 6 months I began to wake up in lucid dreams and they were more like
vivid dreams, stories. A couple of weeks ago, however, I was able to capture something
and take flight, that was my first flight in a lucid dream that I felt in some
sort of command of. Most of the time I was clinging onto whatever it was as it pulled
impossible maneuvers to get me off of it haha until I finally took control and then
flew through a wall of some Middle Eastern Coliseum where a little kid spotted me
and said, "How are you doing that?" And instantly the adventure was over.

So far, my best guide to keep me conscious are my fingers interlocked over my chest.
When they feel like one/numb I know I am getting somewhere. Though sometimes, it is
almost like being stuck in a catatonic state, I can feel consciousness begin to move
and then I pull it back out of fright, even though I want it to happen. Or sometimes
it feels like it just is not going to work / it is taking too long so I force myself
awake to try again. I wonder if I should try a different approach/position or keep
going with laying down?

At least I know I can do it now. Which is very exciting!

Definitely experiment with positions/asanas and whatever else your intuituon throws at you.
I haven't had success in any other position other than laying down but that doesn't mean that you won't.
I did find that changing positions/asanas while on DMT and other psychedelic drugs that it dramatically changed the overall effect.

early in the morning is the best time. Do it while still in bed at like 6am

is astral projection real ?

i've had lucid dreams and they are certainly real , so is it real enough like lucid dreams , or just in the imagination ?

i want to look further into this yet i tried laying in bed still for 3 hours and nothing happened except numbness in my body, i also tried imagining a rope and all that yet no sepration of my conscioussness from the body , nothing infact

i'll be looking up from now on ,

any other helpful advice people

I have my suspicion that astral projection is indeed 'real', as in something that is actually happening outside of yourself.

There are very many different teks to achieve this state, I like the following page: http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

One of the most common basic tips is to do it very early in the morning, maybe 2 hours before you usually get up, you go out of bed for 10 minutes, then back and your body will fall asleep so much easier, while you yourself stay awake (hopefully).

What does that even mean though? I mean without opening the big can of worms surrounding the question of whether or not we really are going out of our body...if, as you say, lucid dreams are "real" and not in the imagination (whatever you mean by that.. everyone will view it differently), then why would "astral projection" (which happens while actually awake) by that definition be any less "real" to you than a lucid dream?


I've experienced what many seem to term 'astral projection' many times, somtimes with the aid of plants, sometimes not, but to be honest i sort of hate that term 'astral projection' itself..Its just incredibly misleading and inaccurate. I'd rather call it an OBE or something...I mean "astral" literally refers to the stars, which more often than not has absolutely nothing to do with peoples experiences lol. And "projection" doesn't fit very well either and with it comes certain assumptions about the nature of whats happening.

I never get too attached to terms really. They're just very very crude maps. But it can be useful to make them more accurate..Regardless of whether your literally out of your body or not, calling it an OBE fits better for me since on a phenomenological level that aligns more accurately with the phenomenon as it is experienced by the person

Uni, people use the term astral projection because it refers to the astral body and astral plane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_body

It's the same as people using a term like "hyperspace" to describe a DMT trip really.

yeah, i'm well aware. I just don't think the term "astral" is really that fitting for the same reasons i already mentioned, i.e. it refers to actual stars.

I agree. I like the term astral projection because I think it sounds nice, but it is completely inaccurate in terms of what one experiences. I have seen fractal landscapes using this method of letting oneself fall into conscious sleep but I have never been in space.

Even DMT, I have seen void like places with many molecules that looked like stars and felt like I was traveling at the speed of light but really, probability is low that I actually was flying through space though it felt and looked for real One is just traveling through the mind. It is a complex structure.

whatever the case maybe , i am happy that atleast this will be as real as lucid dreaming i suppose , which i agree is in the mind in a way since we are asleep on our beds , yet the experience of lucid dreaming whether in the mind or not is still a real lucid experience

i am yet to project successfully , looking forward to it , lucid dreaming is easier for me as i keep reality testing often

I found being pronounced clinically dead a few times really helped me as far as astral projection is concerned. I wouldn't recommend it though. The times I was officially dead I had OOBE's that were very vivid and profound, one time I was outside my body for over 5 minutes and I started go somewhere else - I felt a bit ripped off as I never found out where that somewhere else is.

I don't know if I believe in a soul or a spirit as such, but after being pronounced dead a few times I found the part of me that is non physical (soul ?) had a lot looser attachment to my physichal body. Sometimes just from missing a step the associated jolt that comes with it can liberate my soul ? from my body and cause it to be out of sync, sometimes it can last for days.

I got heavily into all sorts of esoteric phenomena about 10 years ago after my last serious OOBE. I did a lot of work on "Astral projection" that name always seems a bit weird to me as my experiences were 100% earthly or very close to the earth more like low level flying.

For me it worked best when I was in bed drifting off to sleep, I would get to the stage where I'd feel like I was sinking and spinning and I could manipulate that with my breath. The feeling was like sinking on the out breath and floating on the in breath. All I had to do was wait for the feeling to start and then after a few cycles just focus on floating up further on one of the in breaths and bingo I was out of my body and could even see my body just like my I did in my OOBE's.

I never experienced any silver chord or visual bond to my sleeping body but I could always perceive some force of attraction between my physical and "spiritual" body. The first time it happened I left my body and went up above my house and surveyed the roofline. I noticed three broken tiles on the roof. It drove nuts for the next few days so I borrowed a ladder and climbed up to check them and sure enough the ones I saw were all broken.

I did it several times over the next few years and had a lot of fun with it. I found that I could cover large distances faster than I could do in a car. I also found that there must be some electrical phenomena associated with "Astral projection" as whenever I went under power lines I would be quickly snapped backed into my physical body, it seemed to interrupt the process somehow.

Anyway it hasn't happened to me for years, I really don't know why. Maybe now I have kids I'm more firmly rooted to this physical existence ?

Very interesting ^

Do you mind sharing with us how you wound up clinically dead a few times?



Its not that i don't think its "real" (who knows? i'd bet on the consciousness/imagination itself being non-local at heart), or that i haven't experienced being in space and around other planets/stars/galaxies, its just that the majority of the time Stars are not a part of the experience.

The other thing is that, if you start talking to someone about "astral projection" many will close themselves off at such a possibility right off the bat. But if you instead use a different term, like out of body experience, people tend to be much more open to it IME

I have astral projected into space..yall should try it next time you go lucid or w/e. It was extremely spiritual what I saw once up there...

like i said, i have as well...but my point was that more often than not actual stars or even outer space are not commonly experienced during astral projection enough for it to literally be named after it lol. But to each their own

Yeah, the first time was a car accident where I was the passenger in a car that hit a telegraph pole on my side.

The next time was a motorcycle accident where I was clipped by a truck and was thrown into a guard rail and my head/helmet hit the vertical part underneath the guard rail.

In both accidents I fractured my skull and in the motorcycle accident I was bit like Evil Knievel with broken parts everywhere & I had blood leaking out of both ears. I watched the whole scene from above my body in both accidents, after the motorcycle accident one of the paramedics just wanted to let me go because I was so fucked up but the other one (a woman) never gave up and basically did everything in her power to keep me here even though I was flat line for what seemed like ages.

The last one was the result of a mistake by an anesthetist.

Wow, glad your ok! You and Rising Spirit have incredibly fascinating NDE stories