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sauSage
#1 Posted : 11/23/2012 9:52:43 PM

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Question about dosage. Today I'm planning on doing 60g of white caapi, which I've done several times so I'm very comfortable with it. However this time I'd like to add some viridis into the mix. I'm curious what would be a better starting dose - 15g or 30g. I've read and been told both, so some of the collected opinion of the nexus would be much appreciated.

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#2 Posted : 11/24/2012 5:31:47 PM

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I'd say try the lower end first. You never know if you got lucky with extra strong viridis! Make enough for two or three doses, that way if it does turn out to be weak, you can always have some more.
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#3 Posted : 3/7/2013 4:19:57 AM

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#4 Posted : 3/7/2013 6:43:06 AM

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#5 Posted : 3/13/2013 10:21:34 PM

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I have been holding on to some Psychotria Viridis and Caapi for a while now, and have been waiting for the right moment (both in terms of setting and mentally being fully prepared) to undertake my first Aya voyage. This time is drawing ever closer, especially now that I've made some drastic changes in lifestyle in favor of my health, and I'm preparing by reading as much as I possibly can about this topic.

I find it quite hard to really nail down a reliable measurement of caapi / viridis for a moderate first experience, so I'm very glad that you posted this very question. I have searched around in a lot of places but a lot of the dosages are either conflicting or just plain unclear (going as far as measuring dosages in "cups" without mentioning how it was brewed). A reliable and respected vendor specifies the following on their psychotria viridis page though:

Quote:
In most recipes:
25 grams is a low dosage
50 grams is an average dosage
75 grams is a high dosage


Again, I have neither brewed or experienced Ayahuasca before, so I am simply stating what I found. This seems quite a step up from what has been mentioned in this thread so far, so everyone (especially those who have experience with this plant) feel free to provide some feedback. I know potency of Viridis varies pretty drastically from vendor to vendor, which makes it harder to really pin down an exact amount to use.

When I get around to making the brew, I will probably make a few servings (as close to a medium dose as possible), start off with one and drink more an hour or so into the experience if needed.

I'm very interested in hearing how the trip went afterwards, please post back in the future if you can Smile
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#6 Posted : 3/17/2013 11:21:21 PM

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#7 Posted : 3/19/2013 12:41:04 AM

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Hi Pualsage,

- based on what I've read, chacruna has a very low DMT count. Some place I read that under 150g there is no visual experience.

- my own experience 123g did nothing, I regret buying it at all and wasting my $, the source was Maya. It was prepared by cooking with vinegar, and it has a heavy taste. I will do mimosa next time... ( btw, that's why nobody does extractions of DMT via chacruna, which has been comented on some posts)

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#8 Posted : 3/19/2013 4:12:10 AM

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16149327 wrote:
A total of 32 Banisteriopsis caapi samples and 36 samples of Psychotria viridis were carefully collected from different plants on the same day from 22 sites throughout Brazil for phytochemical analyses. A broad range in alkaloid distribution was observed in both sample sets. All B. caapi samples had detectable amounts of harmine, harmaline and tetrahydroharmine (THH), while some samples of P. viridis had little or no detectable levels of N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT). Leaves of P. viridis were also collected from one plant and analyzed for DMT throughout a 24-hour cycle.


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