I had a quick question regarding this tek. It calls for a pound of root bark, but I am using Chaliponga. I also only have half a pound, so should I use only 1L of baseified water, or stick with the 2L and do the tek like usual? I assume the extra amount of base water wont effect anything, but just wanted to make sure.

I performed this tek with the 2L of water anyways, and from the first 500ml naptha pull, I have retrieved about 900mg of a orangish-yellowish waxy material that smells strongly of spice even from a distance.

10mg was smoked for a body buzz that lasted about 5mins.

15mg had the same effect, with longer duration.

20-25mg produced strong body sensations and some minor visual distortions. I think it contains some 5-meo however, for the body load is more intense then with my previous pure dmt experiences, but it also more pleasurable...So its all good to me

Interesting....
So, you did an STB on chali and got a psychoactive-smoking substance? Or did you quid it?

I imagine that a fair amount of the product might be oils and fats, but if it works, it works! Sounds like a more full spectrum experience.

What was your starting amount of chali leaf? Did you use the full half pound?

Yes, I did a STB on the Chali. I can post pictures of the results if you would like. I would imagine that this contains some fats and oils as well, but even 25mg was a decently psychedelic dose, so there couldnt be that much in there can there?

Also, this was just the first naptha pull...I still have three more pulls sitting in jars waiting to be evapped, (smells terrible so I try to do one at a time while no one is awake).

Also, if this is full spectrum, why dont people use this more often then pure 5-meo or pure DMT? I think the full spectrum is much more welcoming and enveloping then the purer products that friends have extracted in the past. Didnt give me as much nausea, and the body load was not as intense for as long as with purer products.

Also, if one wanted to separate these compounds from the fats and oils, would a simple re-x in a small amount of naptha, or maybe ISO (I do not know if this chem is ok for that), do the trick?

And yes, the whole half pound was used in this procedure.

This is the roughly 900mg that was extracted.

Whoa! That's pretty nuts!

I thin often the reason people try to get their spice so pure is for the ease of vaping, and also the cleanness of it. Plus, I think there is a common urge I call "Crystal lust", which almost everyone falls for from time to time.

How easily does it vape? I'm thinking it should be easy to clean up a little with some alcohol, and probably make good changa!

And I agree, the more oily extracts seem so much more warm and nice. I really like Jungle Spice, but there's also something that always draws me to the white fluffy stuff.

Man that's awesome. I wouldn't clean that a bit. Chaliponga spectrum ftw.

I am familiar with "crystal lust"...thats what I wanted to see with my first extract. This orange waxy full spectrum stuff is amazing though.

As for vaping it, I actually dont use a vape. I use my double perked bong. I hover the flame above and slowly draw the flame down (never letting it touch the goo), and then once it all melts into the herb below it I then just roast the rest of the bowl in one big hit. This is how I have always smoked it and it has always done the trick.

The white fluffy stuff kinda scares me IMO. Its not gentle at all. I think the other fats and oils in the plant are what cradle you through the experience. Maybe thats why Aya seems to be more gently for most people?

^ Yeah I'm not sure if that makes the experience gentler but I certainly wouldn't wanna clean up chaliponga full spectrum and end up with maybe half of that amount out of a pound. I bet it's amazing as it is

^ It really is. If you have any Chaliponga laying around I highly recommend doing this. By far my favorite spice yet.

That's really cool! I may have to give this a try. And I definitely agree about the white fluffy being a lot more rough, it can be pretty nuts!

I also have been curious as to sublingual administration of this. I know without an MAOI I will just feel the 5-meo and nmt effects, but if I were to take an MAOI the DMT would be active as well yes?

How long does sublingual last?

I haven't read anything about sub-lingual NN-DMT, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work with a harmala. I actually think it may work to some degree without one. I would assume it would last about as long as a pharma trip, maybe a little less.

How long does a pharma trip last? I have not done anything other then vape it and am interested in new methods.

Also, what are dosages for sublingual? Much less no?

Also, if I wanted to clean up one of the pulls to see the difference, what would be a good way of doing so?

Usually a good starter dose of pharma is around 60mg of DMT, and enough harmalas to inhibit MAO function. The visionary phase lasts around 1-3 hours, with noticeable effects at 4-6 hours. I don't really know how much it would take for sub-lingual dose, but if you try it I'd say start low, but have some measured increments ready to bump it up as needed.

Ok, maybe I will experiment with this.

If I want to crystalize some of this extract, can it be done without actually cleaning up the material? I want crystals so I can have a powder thats easier to work with. If this is not possible I shall have to just make changa.

So upon further evaporation of the rest of the naptha, I am left with white-yellow-orange gooey chunks, and there is a slight oily substance that is coating the dish and is not solid...I am afraid this might be residual naptha? It has been under a fan for 3 hours in this state, and has not changed at all. However, it no longer spells like naptha. It smells strongly of spice to me.

Is this ok to smoke?

Not sure. If it doesn't smell like naphtha, it is probably just plant oils. I would leave it out for a day or so to be sure. If it stays gooey, make some changa like you said. The large surface area of changa would ensure any residual naphtha was evaporated.

It has been sitting out all night now and is still oily in some places. I dont believe its naptha, for it solidified a small bit, but not enough to make it a solid. Ill just have to evap the rest of what I have, weigh everything, and make some changa!