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INCB Recommends "Appropiate Action" against plant materials Options
 
obliguhl
#21 Posted : 3/13/2013 7:55:51 AM

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Ok jamie, perhaps i was a bit too harsh. You might care, but it is easier to argue for growing if you can grow. I don't have a windowsill. I tried to grow cacti without success same goes for chakruna. I've grown some arundinacea though, which yielded me 3g dry (Grass, not dmt). By all means, grow people. I highly encourage everyone to do it! I myself have not completely given up on it and am looking into guerilla-growing somewhere.

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Are you out there doing something openly to stop the scheduling of these plants?


I've put out flyers educating about the medical benefits of these plants. More like a bulletin of some sort....I could have been more agressive about it I have to admit.

It's true, talking does get us nowhere. Let's leave that to people who only want to seem active and engaged (politicians).
 

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#22 Posted : 3/13/2013 11:35:28 AM

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#23 Posted : 3/13/2013 1:25:26 PM

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^^^ uh-huh.

While it's true that growing indoors certain species like acacias or mimosas can be difficult in terms of yield, when tree bark or root bark or large amounts of slow-growing phyllodes are required, and other plants of the Rivea/Ipomoea/Argyreia genus require more space than we have usually available inside of a house, there are MANY options for indoor gardening and self-sustainability, namely:

- Psychotria genus, leaf
- Caapi vines, for leaf mostly
- Any cacti containing mescaline
- Psilocybe mushrooms and related genus
- Salvia
- Syrian Rue
- Phalaris (currently limited by seed availability, but potentially great)

Plus the genus Virola and Anadenanthera, Solanaceae, certain iboga related species, dream herbs and other species that undoubtedly will be researched further and made practical. For the money spent in a couple orders of ethnobotanicals you can have a growing space started. Windowsills and a temperate climate to show the sun to your plants come spring are a nice plus but are NOT a requirement. I live in a flat in a big city. The only thing you need is some autonomy, a little space, a small investment and work.

Fighting disinformation, raising awareness and propagating entheogens in your place is not only compatible... I think it's a duty. And obviously it does not mean we are conceding in the whole campaign, it simply means we are keeping our initiative.
 
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#24 Posted : 3/15/2013 11:02:05 AM
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These people at INCB are disgusting control freaks. Their inceasant madness keeps harming us all.
If this goes on much longer we may soon expect to see people arrested & persecuted for merely
growing some Acacia trees or Psychotria bushes. We may live to see the day that people get locked
up in prison for 10+ years, just for growing some trees or bushes, as we have already have seen with
the many people who cultivate Cannabis plants. It's absolute tyranny.

This is why more and more I'm drawn towards the founding of an Entheogenic Religion, even though deep
down I'm very troubled with the concept of a Doctrine....Just for legal purpuses I would desire this.
It may soon be the only way to import/cultivate & ingest Entheogenic plants & plant preparations legally.

Just sitting idly and watching these mindless pigs take away one civil liberty
after another is something I cannot do forever. Entheogens really have a sacred
value to me. So does my freedom to be 100% in control over my own body and what
foods & drugs may enter it. These 2 are uncompromisable. So I'm going to head
the religious freedom-path, unless anyone here has a better suggestion.
 
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#25 Posted : 3/15/2013 6:25:18 PM
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SKA wrote:
These people at INCB are disgusting control freaks. Their inceasant madness keeps harming us all.
If this goes on much longer we may soon expect to see people arrested & persecuted for merely
growing some Acacia trees or Psychotria bushes. We may live to see the day that people get locked
up in prison for 10+ years, just for growing some trees or bushes, as we have already have seen with
the many people who cultivate Cannabis plants. It's absolute tyranny.

This is why more and more I'm drawn towards the founding of an Entheogenic Religion, even though deep
down I'm very troubled with the concept of a Doctrine....Just for legal purpuses I would desire this.
It may soon be the only way to import/cultivate & ingest Entheogenic plants & plant preparations legally.

Just sitting idly and watching these mindless pigs take away one civil liberty
after another is something I cannot do forever. Entheogens really have a sacred
value to me. So does my freedom to be 100% in control over my own body and what
foods & drugs may enter it. These 2 are uncompromisable. So I'm going to head
the religious freedom-path, unless anyone here has a better suggestion.



The religious freedom-path does sound like a good idea, but I dont think it would be that easy to start up a new church founded on the spirituality of these substances. If these are looked down upon by most people, including the government, what says that they will recognize that organization as a legit church? They will see it as just trying to get around the laws and still "get high". It saddens me that they cant realize there is actually more to these things then just "getting high"...
Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
 
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#26 Posted : 3/15/2013 7:34:11 PM

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Freedom to practice any religion doesn't exist anywhere, so this idea won't work.
 
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