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changalvia
#1 Posted : 3/3/2013 9:04:48 PM

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starting a grow log Big grin
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#2 Posted : 3/3/2013 9:25:29 PM

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Hey hey, welcome aboard changalvia. It looks like you're off to a great beginning! Pleased

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#3 Posted : 3/3/2013 10:58:38 PM
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..yes..joy to the world! Smile

congratualtions changalvia..
 
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#4 Posted : 3/3/2013 11:10:40 PM

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Thank you and congrats Smile Will follow this.
 
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#5 Posted : 3/4/2013 4:36:40 AM
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You started these from seeds right?

Any advice on how to get them going from seeds?

Thanks.
 
changalvia
#6 Posted : 3/4/2013 6:47:28 AM

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Thanks familia Very happy

I can't wait to see these gorgeous plants flourish!

Behindthelight, yera I did from seed, I just soaked them in boiling water overnight / couple days (freshly boiled) until they sink to the bottom of the bowl and swell up in size.

Then once they were bloated enough I gently rubbed them on my skateboards grip tape haha but any sandpaper will do I reckon. Just be careful because after the soak they are extremely soft / mushy so you dont wanna go and grate its first set of leaves off Laughing

Once that is done, I put the seeds in a tupperware container, with some wet tissue (Squeezed to drain out excess water - it should just be damp) and then left the tupperware in the sun 24/7. They will pop out if it's hot enough. Make sure it has a lid so it doesnt dry out, leave a corner or two "not clicked down" to allow for some air exchange

Hope this helps! post pics Razz
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#7 Posted : 3/4/2013 3:09:11 PM
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Wonderfull seedlings Changalvia! And since you're in the northern Hemi-
sphere like I am that gives me hope. Forgive me for this shitload of
questions.

Might I ask what species of Acacia these seedlings are?
And where did you get the seeds? And what was the Germination rate
of the seeds?

Spring is comming and I'm really dying to get my own Acacia
seedlings growing. A.Podalyriifolia, A.Simplex or A.Obtusifolia
are the Acacias I hope to grow, preferably this spring & summer.

Furthermore, Changalvia, I was wondering just how harsh do winters get
where you live? How long do the cold & dark wintertime last over there
and how low is the lowest expectable temperature? Around here the cold,
dark autumn & winter weather lasts 6 almost months and at the height of
winter temperatures can get down as low as 27 degrees Celcius below zero.

What are you plans for getting your vurnerable Acacia seedlings to survive
the winter time? Surely there'll be more severe frost where you live than
most Acacias are known to survive. Putting it indoors next to a heatsource?

How will Acacias cope with lack of sunlight in nothern hemisphere winters?
If you don't use artificial lighting throughout the winter will an Acacia
just grow slower? Or will it die?


I'm sure you have considered solutions to these problems before buying Acacia
seeds.
 
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#8 Posted : 3/4/2013 3:45:41 PM
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Thanks man, that definitely helps out.
 
changalvia
#9 Posted : 3/4/2013 4:49:25 PM

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SKA wrote:
Wonderfull seedlings Changalvia! And since you're in the northern Hemi-
sphere like I am that gives me hope. Forgive me for this shitload of
questions.


Forgiven! But if you read a little further, I may have to ask for your forgiveness Neutral

SKA wrote:
Might I ask what species of Acacia these seedlings are?
And where did you get the seeds? And what was the Germination rate
of the seeds?


Those there are Acacia Acuminatas, not sure why the one looks different to the other, even the first set of leaves on the one was wide and the other narrow, not sure what's up with that. But yeah it was trial and error, re-soaks, some seeds got moldy (Change your water!!) but I reckon after scraping them lightly anywhere from a day to 3 is alright (although my zone is way different to yours)

SKA wrote:
Spring is comming and I'm really dying to get my own Acacia
seedlings growing. A.Podalyriifolia, A.Simplex or A.Obtusifolia
are the Acacias I hope to grow, preferably this spring & summer.


Lucky to have Simplex! Its been about 3 / 4 Weeks, not sure the exact date but I can work it out if you'd like.

SKA wrote:
Furthermore, Changalvia, I was wondering just how harsh do winters get
where you live? How long do the cold & dark wintertime last over there
and how low is the lowest expectable temperature? Around here the cold,
dark autumn & winter weather lasts 6 almost months and at the height of
winter temperatures can get down as low as 27 degrees Celcius below zero.


Well man, I hope I am not crushing your inspiration by saying this, but to be honest my biggest threat is coming home to a dry wilted overheated seedling... Winters get around 8 degrees Celsius minimum, and Summer can get quite brutal haha. Our Winters don't last that long..

SKA wrote:
Putting it indoors next to a heatsource?


YES I am sure this will help as they dig full sun apparently, although I'm too scared to leave them in full sun while I'm away all day.



SKA wrote:
How will Acacias cope with lack of sunlight in nothern hemisphere winters?
If you don't use artificial lighting throughout the winter will an Acacia
just grow slower? Or will it die?


I'm not sure... if it will die? But I am assuming indoor lighting / heating definitely the way to go if your climate is too frosty. There are a few members on here who have had success using indoor grow methods, maybe Vodsel can help you there? Check his signature Very happy


SKA wrote:
I'm sure you have considered solutions to these problems before buying Acacia
seeds.


And nah I just did it to try, bought locally (originally they came from Aus.)

I really wish you the best of luck SKA, these plants should be grown everywhere!

behindthelight wrote:
Thanks man, that definitely helps out.


No problem man, hope it goes well. Smile
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The Meddling Monk
#10 Posted : 3/5/2013 2:24:28 AM

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Well done changalvia! Look forward to updates.

SKA the tests Nen had done on Acuminata, as well as what Chocobeastie and others say, show that it's the number1 acacia for DMT known. Obtusifolia is known to vary and sometimes have other alks. Podalyrifolia has been extracted a few times and had nothing much in it. Simplex is high yield but also NMT and is pacific climate.
 
changalvia
#11 Posted : 3/16/2013 11:03:55 AM

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#12 Posted : 3/16/2013 12:04:04 PM

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Nice! I wish them the best of growth!
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#13 Posted : 3/16/2013 7:21:33 PM

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Oh wow! Wonderful!

What's the breakdown of the potting medium?

It looks very sandy.


Thanks,
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jamie
#14 Posted : 3/16/2013 7:43:50 PM

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acacia what?

It looks like my obtusifolia.
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#15 Posted : 3/16/2013 7:53:45 PM

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jamie wrote:
acacia what?

It looks like my obtusifolia.


SKA wrote:
Might I ask what species of Acacia these seedlings are?
And where did you get the seeds? And what was the Germination rate
of the seeds?

changalvia wrote:
Those there are Acacia Acuminatas, not sure why the one looks different to the other, even the first set of leaves on the one was wide and the other narrow, not sure what's up with that. But yeah it was trial and error, re-soaks, some seeds got moldy (Change your water!!) but I reckon after scraping them lightly anywhere from a day to 3 is alright (although my zone is way different to yours)

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#16 Posted : 3/16/2013 10:23:26 PM

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I strongly doubt that the larger seedling in that last pic is an acuminata.

Normally by that stage an acuminata seedling will be starting to change from bi-pinnate foliage to true phyllodes. The leaves at that intermediate stage should be like true phyllodes with bi-pinnate structures at the tips.

I'm not sure what it is.
 
changalvia
#17 Posted : 3/17/2013 12:04:36 AM

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okay guys, haha I was told they are acuminata/jam wattle seeds, so i am saying they are, I can post a pic of the seeds tomorrow maybe, they look like acuminata seeds to me, not sure what obtusifolia look like. I guess only time will tell.

Either way though, I'm gonna have a nice little family.

And as for soil, its from my backyard Laughing hehe

Thanks for the wishes DeDao!

Ta Pleased
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changalvia
#18 Posted : 3/17/2013 12:15:54 AM

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Jamie, I checked a comparison between the two types. The seeds look lank similar. SO that could explain why the one grows faster than the other Wink

I got the "acuminata" seeds from a guy who had obtusifolia as well, so perhaps I scored a lucky packet without having to purchase more than I need - Sweet deal! Thumbs up

Besides... Variety is the spice of life

Cool
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jamie
#19 Posted : 3/17/2013 12:57:16 AM

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my acuminatas dont look like that..but hey Im not an acacia expert and there are diff strains so dont take my word for it.
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most acacias are difficult or impossible to properly ID while still at the bi-pinnate stage, for eg. here's a quick dodgy photo of some acacia adunca i have growing:

also quick photo of floribundas, have grown ~2ft in 2 months up here, beautiful plants Pleased hope they're big enough to flower over these next couple of months

good vibes to you guys for having the initiative to grow
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