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Dorge
#21 Posted : 3/20/2009 6:31:01 PM

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besides both DMT and 5MEODMT can be boiled over a fire for hours and hours to make ayahausca... and they dont seem to evaporate off the liquid...
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#22 Posted : 3/20/2009 6:49:13 PM

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oh true this was 5-meo-dmt plant, I somehow was thinking about dmt..

but in any case, the fact that dmt is boiled for hours in ayahuasca does not say anything about your situation, because one is in its salt form in a solution, and the other is the pure freebase crystals.. so the physical properties are different..

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#23 Posted : 3/20/2009 7:00:12 PM

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The boiling point of 5-MeO-DMT is higher than that of DMT. It's melting point is 67-70 C, close to the boiling point of DMT. It's boiling point seems to be unknown. It's likely to have a boiling point of twice it's melting point, probably something like 130 C (266 F) or higher.

Note that freebase DMT doesn't vaporize easily in boiling water because it forms a gas that is somewhat soluble in boiling water, so it tends to stay in solution but does slowly boil away. Much like hydrogen chloride tends to stay in a solution of water even though it's boiling point is -85.1 C (-121.18 F), but if the cap is left opened, hydrogen chloride gas tends to slowly vaporize away from the hydrochloric acid (hydrogen chloride dissolved in water). If you open a container of hydrochloric acid, you can see some of the hydrogen chloride gas vaporizing away. DO NOT BREATHE IN ANY OF THE GAS OR GET IT IN YOUR EYES!
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Dorge
#24 Posted : 3/20/2009 7:02:25 PM

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that is a good point SWIM wonders how that will effect things?
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#25 Posted : 3/21/2009 1:05:07 PM

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How is your extraction going ?
I think I will also test it out asap.
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Dorge
#26 Posted : 3/23/2009 5:27:22 PM

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well it never freeze perrcipitated even after SWIM reduced it down considerably... its till just sitting there and alot of it didnt decided to evap off either which is odd so its still just sitting there... SWIM thinks swim may heat eva it off in a rice cooker for a bit until theres very little left...
SWIM thinks the STB does not work... and that because of the waxes and oils int he fruits that one will have to try a AB at least...
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Dorge
#27 Posted : 3/30/2009 12:05:14 AM

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well after weeks in the freezer the mark has finally evaped... there is a yellow waxy film attached to the bottom of the jar... smells of evodia...
Swim is thinking of trying it... but isnt sure he wants to lol...
swim is also thinking of doing a orange oil extraction with it...
simmering the orange oil then adding the yellow resin and then precipitating it out...
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#28 Posted : 4/2/2009 8:36:09 PM

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Would be pretty interesting if your extract was active.
C'mon give it a small try Pleased
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he would have more vigorously tried to assist them.They were truly honorable; he was sadly prejudiced.
They were exceedingly well informed; he was grossly ignorant.They were totally indefatigable; he so often, and so quickly,gave up. Still, for many years there was a strong inter-species alliance between the Eleven-Eleven of the Half-way Realm, their Seraphic Associates,and their flesh-and-blood friend, a common mortal. Much was accomplished, many profited, and, there’s only one regret...They could have achieved so much more...

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Dorge
#29 Posted : 4/13/2009 12:17:30 AM

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Waiting for tests to come back...
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#30 Posted : 4/19/2009 1:52:59 PM

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SWIM placed 200g of dried evodia fruits in 99,9 Isopropanol ...
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he would have more vigorously tried to assist them.They were truly honorable; he was sadly prejudiced.
They were exceedingly well informed; he was grossly ignorant.They were totally indefatigable; he so often, and so quickly,gave up. Still, for many years there was a strong inter-species alliance between the Eleven-Eleven of the Half-way Realm, their Seraphic Associates,and their flesh-and-blood friend, a common mortal. Much was accomplished, many profited, and, there’s only one regret...They could have achieved so much more...

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Dorge
#31 Posted : 4/19/2009 6:32:16 PM

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there are other chems in evodia that you dont want... you have to vaporize the evodia fruits when you smoke them to keep from getting those harsh effects... if you smoke them just with a flame point you get some unpleasent vasocontriction shit thats no good... so carefull with how you extract it and smoke it. if your doing that extraction maybe just vaporise it...
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