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#1 Posted : 2/28/2013 10:11:12 PM

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i read that bio-solv is an alternative for m.e.k in the mescaline purification .can i use it
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#2 Posted : 3/1/2013 12:15:07 AM

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Are you working with acetate?
 
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#3 Posted : 3/1/2013 12:55:13 AM
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what is bio-solve?
 
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#4 Posted : 3/1/2013 3:50:07 AM

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yes i think its acetate. idk, i have a resin from the 69ron'S tek and i cannot find any M.E.K. in my country, i need an alternative.
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#5 Posted : 3/1/2013 4:46:24 AM

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Googling it reveals that it is a product composed principally of ethyl lactate.

MSDS here.

I'm not sure about its use in place of MEK. Structurally speaking it is not particularly similar to MEK except the presence of the carbonyl... but that does not necessarily mean it won't have similar solubility properties as MEK. It certainly won't be as convenient though, as it seems Ethyl Lactate is a much slower-evaporating solvent.

One of the first things you should do if you do choose to use bio-solv is to do an evap of it on a clean, clear surface to see if any residue is left. The MSDS indicates that there are some other chemicals in the formula and you do not want any of those left in your mescaline. If there is no residue left over then the next step may be to try dissolving a small amount of your mescaline in the solvent to see if the mescaline is/isn't soluble in it. You ar elooking for the mescaline to not dissolve.

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#6 Posted : 3/1/2013 5:36:44 AM

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Agreed with precog. Residue test would be your first test to try.

Not sure if it would work or not, never heard of it being used. Structurally it is an ester with a hydroxy group, seems like it would be similar to ethyl acetate, but the extra OH may throw things off alittle. It could probably be used since ethyl acetate has been used to wash mesc hcl on Rhodium, no gaurentees though. Would be interesting to find out... always good to add another useful chem to the list.

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#7 Posted : 3/1/2013 5:46:44 AM

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I told you, cc..
acetone.


the only difference is a methyl group, exerting marginal van der waals forces.
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#8 Posted : 3/1/2013 7:52:48 AM

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thanks everyone, and yes benzyme i got the acetone today i was just wondering about the bio-solv, my friend made a small research and i was curious, could be nice to try it though. so acetone WILL work? i really need to be sure, im only in first year chem so any explication would be great!

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#9 Posted : 3/1/2013 7:54:10 AM

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and does the quantity of acetone needed to be use is the same as the one in the tek or does it really matter?
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#10 Posted : 3/1/2013 7:56:47 AM

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it wouldn't really matter.
use the same amount.
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