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#21 Posted : 2/28/2013 9:00:25 PM

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The only experiences that i've had that i can say were truly "BAD" were due to having bad reactions or potentially not so pure/clean products. There have been two times that i have had such bad physical reactions that I was genuinely concerned for my life. I had extremely drastic changes in blood pressure, a sense that my heart was stopping, it became extremely hard to breathe/hang onto reality, and i basically thought i was having a stroke or something. Both times were the scariest two moments of my life. These weren't the type of trips where you experience death subjectively through the psychedelic state/hallucinations. These were actual physical reactions that were so extreme/severe that I felt that my body was shutting down.

The first one was one of the few times i tried a synthetic cannabis blend called "Head Trip". I realized the first time that this was powerful stuff because i hit it 2-3 times and was so f**ked up that i got stuck at a friends house from 9:30pm until almost 2am on a weeknight because i didn't feel safe driving. I've never had that effect from real cannabis. So i stuck to just hitting it once until it was gone. I made the stupid mistake of taking a hit out of the cashed bowl that i had smoked the whole 5 gs of this blend out of and must have got a super condensed resin hit and within 30 minutes of hitting it i was stuck on the couch hallucinating and unable to move. Everytime i tried to get up i had the most severe head rush that i can't even really explain it. I felt numbness throughout all of my limbs and the numbness penetrated clear into my head so that i couldn't even feel it, and my whole mouth went numb as well. Again, it seemed like a mini stroke or something. My heart was beating so hard that you would have been able to actually see my pulse pounding in my throat. I was so scared, f**ked up, and unable to move that i couldn't even make it 20 feet into my studio to get my phone and call for help. I just laid there and tried to do breathing exercises and hang onto reality as long as i could. This lasted 3-4 hours and i finally fell asleep. I felt borderline retarded for the next couple days and haven't touched the stuff since.

The 2nd one was more recently when i did what i thought was 4 ho met and it turned out to be something else that i have yet to identify. I have plenty of experience with metocin and this was nothing like it. I smoked a large joint that was filled with a ton of keif as it was coming on and i instantly became extremely high. It was the most intense body load/buzz that i have ever experienced outside of the prior experience. After a couple hours of this buzz getting stronger and stronger to the point where i started spinning i started getting freaked out and got up to get some water. Fortunately my GF was there because after i drank the water i started spasming uncontrollably and it felt like my heart rate had dropped to 10 beats per minute. I could barely feel a pulse. This may have been an illusion because i had her check it and she said it was there and not too abnormal, but everything began closing in on my as if no blood was being pumped to my brain/limbs. Fortunately she didn't freak out, and neither did I, and she stook care of me for 45 minutes until this horrific experience subsided and i came back to baseline. During that 45 minutes i experienced the most horrible body load that was so intense that i was having an extremely difficult time breathing and talking. The whole thing was severely compounded by the panic attack that i began having due to the situation.

I felt really bad afterwards because my gf had never done any kind of drugs in her life until she started dating me and she began smoking a little ganja here and there. Not a big time smoker, but also not a hater/nagger that wants to try to change me. She also found my discussions on psychedelics very fascinating and showed interest in trying some psychedelic compounds. She actually tried mushrooms with me for the first time and absolutely enjoyed it. I hope this bad experience did not turn her off because it was such a strange and isolated incident that i didn't want her to think that it was even remotely normal for something like that to happen. I guess we'll see in the future. I'm lucky to have such an amazing woman in my life. No other girl that i have ever met/dated has ever shown any interest in all of the "wierdo" things that i'm interested in, especially when it comes to psychedelics and spirituality. Most that i've known have just not understood these things, and I can't say that i really expected them too. They were just conditioned to think negatively of these things and no amount of education could sway their opinion. It is simply incredible to be able to finally relate to someone on that deep of a level.

Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to share these two experiences and also point out that even after hundreds of psychedelic experiences i have never had a truly bad "trip". Even the more difficult/intense ones have turned out being great learning experiences. It has only been the times that I had severely negative physical reactions from what were likely tainted drugs that have truly been negative experiences. I have certainly learned alot about the importance of safety and harm reduction through these experiences and I will never accept any kind of RC from anyone other than my own very reliable source in the future. And even then I will always use every harm reduction technique i know to prevent something like this happening again.

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imPsimon
#22 Posted : 2/28/2013 9:58:37 PM

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Bad trips are fairly common.
I have had one experience myself due to setting (LSD, supermarket, broad daylight. young and foolish) and have met lots of people who have had bad experiences.
Almost all accounts from people I have met is due to setting and some are setting plus cannabis.
THC can really make some people paranoid and combined with psychedelics, mega paranoid.
I have never encountered someone who have had a freakout in a "meditative" and calm setting although you
can find reports of that as well on forums. It's a rarity to my knowledge though.

A lot of bad trips happen to people with no personal knowledge of what's going to happen.
I have met several people having bad trips in thailand on settings like fullmoon party buying mushroom shakes and expecting the beach with a noisy, sweaty, and drunk teenage herd to suddenly become a more fun place while
on mushrooms...probably one of the
last places on earth I would want to eat mushrooms.

I have met lots of people who have had extremely negative experiences with high thc cannabis as well
including myself.


 
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#23 Posted : 2/28/2013 10:12:40 PM

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For me bad trips are pretty easy to get away from. Most of them have stemmed from a bad set or setting. Not being comfortable with my surroundings or the people with me. Also fear of what is gonna happen. That is the major one. When i am very uncertain and i am scared of a bad trip that will usually get me.
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hostilis
#24 Posted : 2/28/2013 10:18:38 PM

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The worst one I had was on cubensis and cannabis. It was my first really strong psychedelic experience. I thought i was stuck in a time loop cause the same things kept happening over and over again. Then I had my ego killed and i was crying for a while. It was very traumatic. I haven't had a bad one on dmt yet really. They are always pretty intense and kinda scary, but not negative. The speed of which it hits you makes it pretty scary at first.
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#25 Posted : 2/28/2013 10:18:56 PM

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I think there's a huge difference between a trip in a bad environment (supermarket, rowdy party, etc...) and a bad trip that is a result of an internal confrontation with one's own psychology that one is not ready for or flexible enough to approach and deal with.

It's pretty easy to leave the supermarket. There's no running from what's inside of yourself.
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#26 Posted : 2/28/2013 10:46:45 PM

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It's how you deal with the trip imo. Ive had what you may call bad trips but i just accepted it and it turned out ok
 
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#27 Posted : 2/28/2013 11:16:56 PM

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I've had many psychedelic experiences, probably over 200 including DMT sessions, and I've only had one "bad" trip. I overdosed on DOB, because it was presented to me as LSD, and what ensued was pretty much insanity. Blacking out on a psychedelic is no good, and auto pilot took over. Scared the shit out of my family and friends.
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