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JusTShrooMinn
#1 Posted : 2/28/2013 2:00:44 AM
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So I have everything planned out to make my first ever changa! I heard its a smoother smoke and slightly gentler ride into hyperspace.

FB DMT just did NOT mesh with me physiologically yada yada.

So here I am after a long needed break from DMT (since summer) and I have come a long way with myself since then and I think I am ready to partake in this wonderful molecule once again. A very good friend of mine who doesnt like psychedelics and what have you finally came up to me and told me he is ready to try DMT.

I figured this was a good time to re-introduce myself into the realm and make some changa as well.

My plan is to use Blue Lotus and Calea as my infused leaf and 1 gram of DMT and rue extract.

My question is this ,how much leaf will I use in total for a 1:1 ratio? How much changa does that actually mean you are smoking for say 50mg hits? Im just a little confused on the math of it all. Also Im using this rue extract tek https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ystals_from_Syrian_Rue.

Based one what I have all ready about aya you take quite a bit more of the maoi than the DMT so does that mean I need quite a bit more Harmine than DMT or can do I got 1g DMT 1G harmine crystals, and ? much leaf?
Thanks for takin your time to help me out
 

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#2 Posted : 2/28/2013 3:25:51 AM

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its quite likely a doseage thing when it comes to intensity.... changa is just as potent as freebase dmt if your smoking the same mg of dmt per hit. a cone of 1:1 dmt to herb changa in a bong for example will generally blast you just as hard as 50mg dmt.. the harmalas slow it down a little but i wouldn't say they make it more gentle..they make it more potent I think....I woudn't really call it more gentle unless your using less dmt in the blend which is essentially just taking smaller hits of dmt... changa is still incredibly powerful especially at the ratio your talking. for a weaker more "gentle" blend try 25:75 dmt to herb. I really enjoy 35:65 as it is still easy to breakthrough with but its good for enjoying more earth/body oriented experiences

oh and in answer to your question... you will use the same weight of leaf as the amount of spice your using at a 1:1 ratio. so 1g leaf to 1g spice... plus harmalas...don't expect it to be gentle
 
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#3 Posted : 2/28/2013 3:55:18 PM

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1g:2g Spice/Caapi Leaf (x5 enhanced) is smooth.. Rolling eyes (rolled)

so every 500mg leaf should contain 250mg DMT
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#4 Posted : 2/28/2013 5:37:58 PM

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Do you have a milligram scale? Just keep track of everything you put in. Remember, aside from the solvent, nothing should be lost. So, if you put 1 g of spice, 1 g of plant, and say 1 g rue extract, you should end up with 3 g of changa, 1/3 of which is dmt. So, you can measure your doses using that ratio. If you want a 25mg dose of dmt, load a 75mg bowl. A 100mg bowl would contain 33.3mg of spice, etc. Decide how much spice you want, and multiply that number by the reciprocal of the ratio of dmt to total material, to get your bowl size.

And I used 1g of rue extract just as an example, I have never used rue extract and have no idea how much you should use. Browse around the changa threads to get more info on peoples blends.
 
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#5 Posted : 2/28/2013 5:57:29 PM
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Thanks for all the great responses guy!

I think I got it all figured out now. I do have a MG scale.

I plan it being just as intense there was just something psychologically about just vaping the crystals and the taste of them that didnt fly that well with me for whatever reason. Im hoping changa will change this

So if im using my rue extract, using 1g of it with 1g of dmt is right?
 
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#6 Posted : 3/3/2013 4:10:12 AM

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JusTShrooMinn wrote:
Thanks for all the great responses guy!

I think I got it all figured out now. I do have a MG scale.

I plan it being just as intense there was just something psychologically about just vaping the crystals and the taste of them that didnt fly that well with me for whatever reason. Im hoping changa will change this

So if im using my rue extract, using 1g of it with 1g of dmt is right?


I think it will in that case ... i love the taste and feel of changa smoke. but yeah i find the experiences equally as intense. good luck
 
 
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