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ipumaestro
#1 Posted : 2/20/2013 2:22:27 AM

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anyone ever add fb harmalas to melted fb dmt?

ipuma used a watch glass over a cup of boiled water to melt a g of fb dmt, then added 500 mg of fb harmalas, instead of adding plant material and mixing he simply stopped after the harmalas to end up with 2 dmt: 1 harmala substance. when let cool it became semi waxy and brittle. the mud colored mixture was chopped finely and now resides comfortably in a vile, awaiting future use.

ipuma intends to use this substance like he would regular spice; vaporized on top of some smoking herb before igniting the herb to ensure all product was consumed.

the reason he did this was:
1. the liquid dmt didnt seem to be able to hold much more than the 500 mg harmalas
2. to avoid hot spots in the changa; it can now be metered more precisely than if it were melted onto herb
3. why not? spice alone is cool, but spice mixed with harmalas is cooler Smile
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#2 Posted : 2/20/2013 6:13:38 AM

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Excited to hear how this works out, keep us posted!
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#3 Posted : 2/20/2013 7:05:07 AM

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Yeah, I've encountered folks who do this. It's not Changa, it is smoking crystal DMT with Harmalas.
 
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#4 Posted : 2/20/2013 8:45:49 AM

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Cool idea. Would love to see some pix of the consistency.
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#5 Posted : 2/20/2013 10:31:03 AM

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I just vape some harmalas first, and then vape some DMT afterwards. Personally I find its better to give the harmalas a few minutes to get started before loading up on Spice, but have considered doing similar, albeit by dissolving both in ethanol and then evapping, essentially the same deal I would think.
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#6 Posted : 2/27/2013 8:52:56 PM

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i tried this once in an e-cig, it didn't work but i am positive that is the fault of the e-cig.

i took the mixture and evapped onto herbs to smoke in the bong.

i am sure if i got the funding for a GVG this would be my preferred method.

@purges: why not smoke harmalas prior to smoking a mixture of harmalas and dmt (jut lower the mixture)?
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