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#1 Posted : 3/18/2009 4:24:53 AM

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Wondering if anyone has had experience with multiple Syrian Rue doses for prolonged effects, or knows if its possible, using smoked dmt?
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#2 Posted : 3/18/2009 4:57:11 AM

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syrian rue does make the smoked dmt trip longer and a bit slower and easier to grasp..its sweet..
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#3 Posted : 3/18/2009 5:42:06 AM

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I'm aware, but what about having a few doses of Syrian Rue throughout the night to prolong its effects, instead of just one.
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#4 Posted : 3/18/2009 6:01:13 AM

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ive heard that it works great...but you should also add a little dmt booster with it..maybe even 20-30mg..
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#5 Posted : 3/18/2009 6:06:37 AM

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Ye I was thinking even a booster booster, who knows.. thanks

also, I understand RIMA's don't impose large restrictions on food but what about on other drugs like alcohol, mdma or coke?
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#6 Posted : 3/18/2009 11:05:16 PM

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smokeydaze wrote:

also, I understand RIMA's don't impose large restrictions on food but what about on other drugs like alcohol, mdma or coke?



I feel like it could ver well likely conflict with mdma ( SerotoninSyndrome? )
The others you mentioned arent interesting for me..
but if it wasnt dangerous to try , I would go try Out RUE+MDMA ...
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#7 Posted : 3/18/2009 11:10:10 PM
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Coca is often consumed with aya/caapi in the Amazon; however, street coke may well be contaminated with amphetamine or similar compounds which could be bad.
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#8 Posted : 3/19/2009 12:11:39 AM

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Ok so mdma most probably bad, coke maybe bad depending on contamination, but what about alcohol?
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#9 Posted : 3/19/2009 12:21:35 AM

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Well, SWIM has taken tetrahydroharmine with mescaline with very nice results.

Tetrahydroharmine is a RIMA extracted from caapi. Mescaline is a phenethylamine.

The trip was fantastic to say the least. Sort of like ayahuasca but extremely friendly because of the mescaline. The THH smoothed out the mescaline experience, effectively blocking the stimulant effects of mescaline, while at the same time making it about twice as potent, and far more euphoric.

I think those warnings are way overblown. RIMAs can be used with mescaline, at least tetrahydroharmine can, without any negative effects for SWIM. However, mescaline is said to be dangerous to use with full blown MAOIs. But RIMAs are not complete MAOIs. They are only partial MAOIs, they only affect MAO-A metabolism and not MAO-B metabolism and they also do not interfere with tyramine metabolism. They are pretty safe.

SWIM has used THH with 5-MeO-DMT, DMT, bufotenine, caffeine, theobromine, yohimbine, and a few others and never had any bad reactions at all.
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#10 Posted : 3/19/2009 12:43:02 AM

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smokeydaze wrote:
Coke maybe bad depending on contamination, but what about alcohol?


Coca Leafs is not cocaine . Cocaine is a bad and unethical drug to use , it has a very bad "spirit" attached to it .
It's really not recommendet at all , while coca leaves could well be a nice Ingredient for the brew.



I don't think alcohol and MAOIs have bad interactions , but alcohol is profoundly toxic by itself Pleased
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#11 Posted : 3/19/2009 12:50:42 AM

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Coca Leafs is not cocaine . Cocaine is a bad and unethical drug to use , it has a very bad "spirit" attached to it .
It's really not recommendet at all .


Yes ok thanks for the advice, but I'm asking for precautionary issues not entirely relating to myself.

So Ron, I'll assume almost anythings alright..
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#12 Posted : 3/19/2009 1:30:08 AM

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Thats how I meant it , precautionary , because taking cocaine is not worth the damage done by its production/distribution/consumption . Now especially when talking about ayahuasca , it is important to mention this.


The Cactus and Harmala Combo really sounds like a nice recipe to take a note of in my little book ,
There are plenty of Reports on it in the Erowid-HarmalaCombo-Experiences link i've posted above.

We also had some recent threads on Mescaline Potentiation here , this was one of em :
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#13 Posted : 3/19/2009 1:54:08 AM

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yes redosing works... for me at least but i could be imagining it all... the only difference for me between tripping and not tripping is the intensity.. i havent came down in a long long time.
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#14 Posted : 3/19/2009 2:36:34 AM

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69ron wrote:
Well, SWIM has taken tetrahydroharmine with mescaline with very nice results.

Tetrahydroharmine is a RIMA extracted from caapi. Mescaline is a phenethylamine.

The trip was fantastic to say the least. Sort of like ayahuasca but extremely friendly because of the mescaline. The THH smoothed out the mescaline experience, effectively blocking the stimulant effects of mescaline, while at the same time making it about twice as potent, and far more euphoric.

I think those warnings are way overblown. RIMAs can be used with mescaline, at least tetrahydroharmine can, without any negative effects for SWIM. However, mescaline is said to be dangerous to use with full blown MAOIs. But RIMAs are not complete MAOIs. They are only partial MAOIs, they only affect MAO-A metabolism and not MAO-B metabolism and they also do not interfere with tyramine metabolism. They are pretty safe.

SWIM has used THH with 5-MeO-DMT, DMT, bufotenine, caffeine, theobromine, yohimbine, and a few others and never had any bad reactions at all.



your right mescaline is a phenethylamine and yes amphetamines are in the family... but work in a totally differant way... MDMA being an amphetamine I would say if you choose to explore that as a combo with harmine, harmaline or THH your doing so at a slightly higher risk factor then with the mescaline analogs or mescaline its self. Having seen quite a few REALLY negative and longer term damaging drug contradictions at work I would seriously take heed and show some serious caution.

as far as taking multiple doses and boosters... SWIM has sat in many traditional ayahausca ceremonies and taking another drink is common... it will intensify and prolong the experience.
if thats what your gunning for... in swims honest opinion... less can be much much more... and would ask why some people choose to over compensate for something they could be doing for themselves by taking more...
just seems like avarice most of the time...
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#15 Posted : 3/19/2009 2:40:40 AM

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SWIM never uses amphetamines, and never will.
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damn straight bro...
SWIM has seen SO fucking many people end up in the psyche ward because of amphetamines... it will litterally take a healthy human brain and turn it into the brain of a schizophrenic or schizoaffective...
its unreal...
speedy MDMA is a real scary one... MDMA mixed with other amphetamines or meth in gernal, because its a cheap and easy one...
its a effect pusher... i cant recall the pharmacodynamic term ATM.. but what it does is push the seratonin and dopamine releasing effects of MDMA way father then just normal MDMA ever would... that particular action seems to create specificly schizoaffective disorder effects over long terrm usage unless some one is slighttly or seriously predisposed... its a scary fucking mix for the brain... seriously... scary... what swim has seen in psyche wards... holy shit...
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#17 Posted : 3/19/2009 3:14:49 AM

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LLB wrote:

if thats what your gunning for... in swims honest opinion... less can be much much more... and would ask why some people choose to over compensate for something they could be doing for themselves by taking more...



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#18 Posted : 3/22/2009 8:54:55 PM
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I was wondering, and since it's fairly on-topic here, what about RIMAs with GBL/GHB and so on? Just out of curiousity rather than desire to combine the two=)
 
 
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