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ChemisTryptaMan
#1 Posted : 2/10/2013 1:42:11 PM

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I have been having trouble breaking through lately due to the medications I am on, and only have enough spice for two travels left. I want to get the most out of my spice so I will be taking my next voyage before I take my medication one morning and was wondering if anyone has smoked using this method I'm about to describe. I have some 10x caapi leaf that is left over from my last time making changa. I plan to lay a bed of this in my GVG and take a nice long hit of just caapi. I then will add a small amount of additional caapi to the pipe and place about 50 mg of crystal on top of this. I feel since I only have two journeys in the near future I would benefit from lengthening them with vaped caapi, and by getting the inhibitors into my system before I start to vape the spice. If anyone has done this your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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null24
#2 Posted : 2/10/2013 3:00:35 PM

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There's a chance I'll get flamed for saying this, but OH WELL.
I read in one of your other posts that you must use clonopin for tremors. Obviously, that would make breakthrough difficult.
My actual experience with DMT is limited. When I had my one time access to the Spice, I had a fumarate. I had a small amount, and was eager to try it, the friend who was supposed to go in with me kept putting it off. SOOOO, I went ahead and I.V.ed a little. WOW. Breakthrough! So this guy never did end up wanting to do it because of his fear- he's not very experienced- so I went ahead and began experimenting with IMing it. Breaking through every time. I know folks dont like needles and their connotations, but frankly if you are using Western methods and concepts, the IV/IM R.O.A. is the safest, most effective way, IMO.
Dunno how youd turn your two doses into a salt, or how much youd lose, if any, never done it, just sayin.
Another interesting thing- I had ~6 flights, 5 of which were IM, one IV. The first IV shot took around 30 seconds to come on,(usually happens ~7secs.) but when it did, I instantly died and pierced the veil. However, by the 6th use, about 30 days later, I would begin to feel an IM shot BEFORE the plunger was pushed down all the way. WTF? Tryptamine SENSITIVITY?
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#3 Posted : 2/10/2013 3:21:09 PM

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I have always been curious about IV use of spice but since I spent a more years than I would like to admit IV'ing heroin, I won't be trying injection anytime in my life. I don't think I could find a vein if I wanted to, and IM could lead to abcess if the solution is not completely sterile. I knew IM heroin users who developed some very nasty abcesses and would rather put it into my bloodstream than floating around in my body. But like I said, I don't ever want to use needles again. As for the klonopin, I plan to blast off in the morning before taking that or going to the methadone clinic, and saving my last dose for a time when methadone is behind me(only a few more months to go and I'll be free of the liquid handcuffs). I would also like to get my hands on an eeg machine and someone who can operate one. I am surprised that strassman chose not to use these measurements in his studies as they are not uncomfortable and they would not effect the outcome of the trip to any extent as far as I can tell. I just had one done a few days ago and it was extremely comfortable with the electrodes on my head. Perhaps the electrodes used at the time of his study were less comfortable than the ones used today, who knows? The only problem was that I have dreads and they had to cover each electrode location with a grease that did cause some of the locking to come undone near those sites, but that will fix itself over time so no big deal. The woman who was performing the test continuously assured me she would do everything she could to minimize the amount of grease she applied as she thought my hair was beautiful and she didnt want to ruin it. She was a very nice woman.
 
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#4 Posted : 2/10/2013 4:45:44 PM

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I lost track of my original question in that last post, but has anyone ever vaped caapi in there gvg prior to vaping crystal on caapi? I was hoping that by first getting the MAOI in my system and reaching an effective level before any of the spice got to the enzyme it would make for a stronger and longer trip. I will not be doing this until a I wake up and feel drawn to do so. Most mornings I wake up already having tremors(witch often wake me up), and with the early signs of methadone withdrawal. No matter ho slow I taper it seems my body is going to suffer(you can't avoid the withdrawals, you can merely stretch them out). There are however, occasional mornings when I wake up feeling fine. I was thinking that the next time this happens I will try it out. I really am most concerned with whether you vaping pure caapi first is wasting my time, as I know that the crystal will still work even if I don't. Really just wondering what others have experienced in this regard.
 
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#5 Posted : 2/11/2013 1:13:10 AM

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null24 wrote:
There's a chance I'll get flamed for saying this, but OH WELL.
I read in one of your other posts that you must use clonopin for tremors. Obviously, that would make breakthrough difficult.
My actual experience with DMT is limited. When I had my one time access to the Spice, I had a fumarate. I had a small amount, and was eager to try it, the friend who was supposed to go in with me kept putting it off. SOOOO, I went ahead and I.V.ed a little. WOW. Breakthrough! So this guy never did end up wanting to do it because of his fear- he's not very experienced- so I went ahead and began experimenting with IMing it. Breaking through every time. I know folks dont like needles and their connotations, but frankly if you are using Western methods and concepts, the IV/IM R.O.A. is the safest, most effective way, IMO.
Dunno how youd turn your two doses into a salt, or how much youd lose, if any, never done it, just sayin.
Another interesting thing- I had ~6 flights, 5 of which were IM, one IV. The first IV shot took around 30 seconds to come on,(usually happens ~7secs.) but when it did, I instantly died and pierced the veil. However, by the 6th use, about 30 days later, I would begin to feel an IM shot BEFORE the plunger was pushed down all the way. WTF? Tryptamine SENSITIVITY?


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null24
#6 Posted : 2/11/2013 4:58:45 AM

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ChemisTryptaMan wrote:
and saving my last dose for a time when methadone is behind me(only a few more months to go and I'll be free of the liquid handcuffs).

Right on brother! All power to you in that endeavor. I am in the same boat. I had gotten to 3mgs (and feelin fine!) but then lost my home and relapsed, so went back up to 40 to stop. Plan to be off by june 23. If ya ever wanna talk about what yer going through, please feel free. Awesome.
And I was terribly reckless in doing that with a sample of unknown sterility and ph etc, but oh well, it happened. But yes you are right, dont try at home.
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