Hello brothers/sisters,

First of all, I just want to thank EVERYBODY on this forum, for being so nice and smart and answering any questions I have, everytime I need some help.

After experiencing crystal DMT (wow, maybe to intense for me at this point) and then doing a simple enhanced leaf recipe ( muuuch smoother and nice experience), I want to make a proper changa.

I don't have so much of the DMT left (1-200mg), but I have 500mg of 5-Meo-DMT and some P. Harmala laying around.

What would be the recommended ratios of these three elements?
Is it recommendable to use 5-Meo-DMT even though I haven't had it on it's own.
I have made a P. Harmala extract before, and had it on a failed pharmahuasca experience (the DMT was not active), and had some interesting effects on the harmala alone.
Would I just add the extract to the leaf and DMT and let it dry normally?

Thanks a lot!

If DMT was too intense for you, then 5-MeO is even more intense, and if you add p. harmala that would make it even more intense. To be frank it seems that it would be leagues of intensity too great for you. Not only that, but it's not a combination that I would recommend anyway. It is easy to OD on 5-MeO. It requires a fraction of the dose of DMT to do a bigger job.



Not recommended for an instant. Before you fret about all these combinations anyway, take the time to get to know 5-MeO on its own terms. I doubt you'd be so eager to combine it with anything if you had a taste of its potential. I would recommend you do some reading and research into 5-MeO including dose range.

And 500mg of 5-MeO is a lot!!! You could squeeze 100 (literally) intense experiences in there at the going rate of 5mg/breakthrough.

Thanks a lot guys. I think this is what I wanted to hear.
I do feel that in some way it's not fair to try something in combination, without trying it first on its own. I was trying to break my own psychonaut code, for some other reasons (that I will further inspect)

For now, I think I'll stick to the DMT + P. Harmala.
Maybe you can still tell me a ratio for this? Noting was mentioned about the ratios in the changa preparation wiki.

Also, I realized that I have 100mg, not 500 of 5-Meo-DMT, and indeed it is something that I feel I'll try sometime in the future. For now I maybe only had around 10 experiences with DMT. And I haven't even broke through. So you guys are right.

Anyway, your posts made me optimistic for the future. I've had my fair share of psychedelics (except for the DMT as much), and sometimes you think you've seen it all, but damn, I know I barely dipped my fingers into the ocean.

PS: When I said I have 500mg of 5-Meo, I didnt mean that I'd put all that into a batch of enhanced leaf.