it's easier to debate or agree with persons such as yourself, that are fairly informed on the matter; obviously you've read some references, and can distinguish between anecdotal theories and plausible ones supported by evidence.

i watched a video of him interviewing graham hancock and he seemed to have updated his view

You better believe I'm bumping this sucker.

My DMT is made in a tree, extracted by me, and freeze precipitated in my freezer that I have appropriately named Dee Dee. But seriously now, I can't say that it is made in the brain, but I do like to deliver a little to my brain once in a while.

Orion, you're such a sucker bumper.

Yea it's just a silly rumor. Personally, I think it's illogical and a way to appeal to people when talking about it.


AKA Non-sense

I'm starting to think it's in every one of your cells, when you take it in it's raw form, it causes your cells to lose their fixed quantum state. Your etheric body is then released. That's why you feel vibrations and the huge ringing turn up sound at the initial come up, your particles are literally vibrating and dispersing into the universe and you become part of everything for the short time the drug lasts

I think it is more likely the fact that it is a psychedelic that alters your perception.

Maybe DMT ingestion like LSD leaves the body very quickly leaving the experience within the mind..only LSD experience lasts for hours ...whit DMT only minutes...
It makes perfect sense that DMT is made in another organ of the body and not in the brain..
But it is always present within the brain..
Why did the ancient Egyptians always remove and discard the contents of the brain cavity when entombing their dead kings while preserving the remainder of the body?
Perhaps the brain is the wiring like a computer always in connection with the rest of the body and its organs..
The brain and its organs are a constant bio chemical lab running 24 hours a day week after week month after month always testing chemical levels within the blood and re adjusting them to a normal level..
DMTs awesome experience is possible because of the important chemical key that DMT is...
That key opens the mind doors to other worlds that are not normally experienced..
I think ..[normal nightly dreaming].. is similar to these hallucinogenic experiences..
Any drug experience can be duplicated and doors accessed within a lucid or non lucid dream ..
If lucid dreaming was easy to master at a high level ..[for everyone].. the use of drugs would not be necessary any more...
There is a reason that these keys are available to us on planet earth...
I'm glad they are available to us all..

Nowadays, my DMT experiences always last at least 4 hours, usually around 6, and they have lasted as long as 8 hours.

What form of ingestion are we talking about here? That is truly unheared of. Not to say it is impossible. I heared some people say it has happened to them once or twice, but never consistently long experiences!

Staggered repeated dosing basically. I combine both pharmahuasca and fumahuasca. Inside of a typical 6 hour period I will dose pharmahuasca 2 or 3 times and in that same period of time I will dose fumahuasca 4 to 6 times per hour or so. It also helps that I often smoke without being conscious of doing so while I'm in full breakthrough.

^how does one smoke while already in a full breakthrough? Somehow I feel like you are exagerating a bit..or maybe you have never had a true breakthrough? You are not gunna be picking up a pipe to smoke more DMT while you have broken through.

not to mention taking pharma 2-3 times within a 6 hour period, along with repeated smoked breakthroughs throughout, would probably incapacitate me for a solid day. Pharma alone can last around 12 hours at times

I can assure you that there is no need to exaggerate. Way back some years ago I started a thread to inquire regarding this. On that, you can check my post history. In fact, I encourage, no, I request, that you do check my post history. In fact, please begin with a more recent post made by our mutual friend The Traveler https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=428095#post428095. I just do not want to go down that road that leads in a negative direction whereby a question is asked, and then the question is answered openly and honestly, and then the answer is refuted and denied. I also do not want to be involved in such a discussion that escalates to the point that The Traveler feels he needs to intercede. So I will answer this one last question regarding this subject and I will bow out and say nothing more on the subject.

I'm not saying that it always happens but it does happen often. Especially on my long Journeys. Sometimes when my mind has 'left my body' and I am off somewhere else in the multi-verse or in some wormhole traveling from one universe to another, my body seems to go into a trance like state and becomes very methodical. It(I), my body, becomes very mechanical moving in a precise repetitive pattern in which I load the pipe, put flame to it and smoke it, pause, and go through it again repeatedly.

Basically, I do not know the precise 'how' or 'why'. I only know that it happens. The reason I know, without a doubt, that it happens is because a number of years back, I noticed that when I began a Spice Journey I would have a fair amount DMT and harmaloid freebase in my Pyrex dish but several hours later when I came out of my Journey large amounts were gone. I considered the possibility that I was dumping it but I didn't find a mess anywhere. I even considered the possibility that I was putting it somewhere and hiding it from myself. Since I could never find it, I decided to set up a camera and film myself. That was when I discovered that I just smoked it.


As for pharmahuasca, for me, it lasts 2 to 3 hours and that's about it. I believe this is because I have a relatively fast metabolism. I can eat corn and I will shit kernels within 4 hours sometimes. It's not difficult for me to dose pharma multiple times while I'm still very huasca-intoxicated but not in the middle of a break wave.

This is all the more I can really say of this. I assure you that this is in no way an exaggeration or embellishment. I am not looking for attention or trying to set myself apart in any way. And in fact, I would rather not have the attention because it can be quite exhausting defending myself. I mean no disrespect to you, or anyone else, but I don't feel I should have to defend myself. I also realize that sometimes I bring this on myself because I genuinely feel the need to answer the questions asked of me as honestly as possible. Additionally, I understand that the types of members and the general attitudes on the Nexus are quite different than they were 5 or so years ago and I just wish to be tolerant of this fact. So, again, no disrespect intended, you can take me at my word or you can disbelieve me. I am alright with either, I just don't want to discuss or hear any more on it.

May you find the light and may the light guide you.

^thats really weird. Do you also sleep walk by any chance? I cannot imagine using my hands to load a pipe and smoke it when I am in the really deep levels of a full on breakthrough.

As far as I know, I do not sleep walk. But my wife has, on occasion, told me that I often try to have sex with her while I'm asleep. Unfortunately (I think) she only let me one time.

Its all good man. no need to defend yourself. i just was hoping for some elaboration because that is indeed a very strange thing; so understandably we were a bit skeptical. I don't doubt that its possible though. thanks for explaining

reminds me of how I used to agree with people a few years ago that it would be virtually impossible to stand up and walk around while on a very deep breakthrough, until it accidentely happened. A friend had taken what looked like a few big hits off of a VG loaded with 50mg, however i later learned that for some reason he only had melted it and gotten virtually none himself. I took the pipe a few seconds after he closed his eyes, and then got the full dose in one hit. i went in a state of shock/panic, since i was expecting maybe 15mg at the most! I was just not in a very prepared state of mind all around. I remember i got up, stared in cosmic awe and bewilderment at an eternal-multidimensional-alien-god version of my friend, went out the door, and somehow made it all the way down the hall and into my own room. it was only 40 ft or so but it was the most bizarre walk i'd ever had

Yeah... sure... cos everyone's brain is the same...

Maybe YOUR brain.. doesn't produce DMT...

Mine certainly does.

right.

and my brain produces pcp.
sometimes it produces cocaine, if I'm feeling cocky

because some people have magical metabolic pathways that others don't, since brains are so unique.

This is getting old but I understand that many people are still focussed on the DMT pineal gland thing..this is such a narrow perspective when you concider all of the angles.

melatonin is produced in the pineal gland..pinoline(6meoTHBC) is produced in the pineal gland..10-methoxy-harmalan is produced in the pineal..I think 6-methoxy harmalan is thought to be possible via the pineal as well..6-methoxytetrahydroharman is produced in the pineal..I think harman too but not sure..5meoDMT is thought by many to be possible via the pineal also..I dont even know where NMT is produced..or 5meoNMT..or bufotenine..

DMT is produced in other areas and is at least present in the pineal..it does not NEED to be made via the pineal for it to still be interesting..

As you can see the pineal is a biological psychedelic laboritory already without even having to bring DMT into the equation. I hgihly doubt that people have endogenous psychedelic experiences that are due to DMT alone..likely its a mixture of alaklids that resembles some kind of endohuasca.